Run, you fucking piece of shit. Go go go gogogogogogog!

My niece told her grandmother about her fear of getting murdered at school. Feel that fear, asshole.

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    This strikes me as like implying that I’m hypocritical because I support gay marriage, but then turned down a man who hits on me because im not actually gay.

    A person can be pro gun rights and at the same time still be afraid of an active shooter.

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      Apples to oranges argument and a straw man argument all in one. Bravo sir, brav-fucking-o. Yall never cease to amaze me.

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        You could explain why, but that would actually take thought and effort and open your position up to being challenged, which is scary. I get it. Empty insults are much easier.

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      I’m hypocritical because I support gay marriage, but then turned down a man who hits on me because im not actually gay.

      It would be ironic to loudly and repeatedly declare “If you don’t want to get hit on at a bar, put on that wedding ring” and then get chased out of a bar by a bunch of married men slapping your ass.

      A person can be pro gun rights and at the same time still be afraid of an active shooter.

      A person who stakes their reputation on the phrase “An Armed Society Is A Polite Society” fleeing said armed society for their lack of politeness establishes a certain hypocrisy.

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        A person fleeing that situation who may well be unarmed is self-preservation, not hypocrisy, regardless of their stance on guns. He is however reaping what he has helped sow. Hypocrisy is simply the wrong word. This isn’t the same as being anti-abortion and then paying for your mistress to get one. Being pro-gun doesn’t mean you just stand there.

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          A person fleeing that situation who may well be unarmed is self-preservation, not hypocrisy

          A person who insists everyone should be armed everywhere they go and then isn’t armed when he asserts a gun would have been handy is ironic.

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        A person who stakes their reputation on the phrase “An Armed Society Is A Polite Society” fleeing said armed society for their lack of politeness establishes a certain hypocrisy.

        Of course not.

        A handgun compares to a rifle like a dagger to a sword.

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            What did you not understand? A pistol is a gun, a rifle is a gun, a Soviet D-20 howitzer is a gun.

            You can’t be that stupid to call somebody a hypocrite for supporting carry of weapons for self-defense because they ran from a mass shooter with a rifle. People usually don’t carry rifles for self-defense.

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      They never are. And by “they,” I mean everyone who carries a gun for “protection,” and by “never,” I mean that the good guy with a gun almost never actually stops shootings.

      Just look at the numbers of justifiable homicides vs the number of murders by guns in the US. The justifiable homicides are almost statistically insignificant in comparison.

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          The goal of defensive use of a gun isn’t homicide

          That’s interesting because I was always told never to point a gun at anything I didn’t want to kill.

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            “Defensive use” does not implicitly imply pointing and shooting a gun at anyone. Often merely showing a holstered firearm will cause the bad guy to leave quickly because no one wants to get shot. This IS a defensive use of a firearm in the clearest sense. And in such a scenario, it will not make the news for you to hear about nor is it likely to even be reported to law enforcement. And this is more likely to happen than drawing and shooting - because very few people actually want the extreme problems that will follow. Shooting someone is the last resort.

            As far the this governor running away well, as governor it was very unlikely he was armed - he has a security detail carrying the guns for him, (just like any liberal person with money or power). And secondly, if you’ve ever taken a self-defense class for a carry permit, there is a checklist of things to do BEFORE you draw and shoot. And guess what, running away if at all possible is at the top of the list…

            Still, this guy is an idiot and much like most loud idiots no matter their political beliefs they get the most ink. But there is more to this argument than the circle jerk that is happening here. You are a liberal thinker and probably pride yourself on being smarter and more intellectually honest. Be what you believe you are. Otherwise, you are no better than this clown.

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              You are a liberal thinker and probably pride yourself on being smarter and more intellectually honest. Be what you believe you are. Otherwise, you are no better than this clown.

              I was raised around guns. Had some (superficial) training in the military with guns. I’m not a gun owner now, but while I think R and the right in general are absolutely culpable regarding our gun violence problems due to their refusal to acknowledge them or do a damn thing about them, I’m not anti-2A, and not being disingenuous with my comment here.

              I was told by everyone who was ever responsible for training me in gun safety that you don’t pull it out unless you are prepared to use it, and you should not be prepared to use it unless you are prepared to kill with it. I was also taught that brandishing was illegal, and more likely to escalate than defuse a situation.

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                The brandishing part is why it’s not reported or on the news. But that does not mean it doesn’t happen successfully.

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                  So one of the best uses of a weapon defensively is to break fundamental gun safety rules that are in literally every gun safety course (and the law)? Aren’t R the party of law and order?

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          The person you are most likely to use a gun on is yourself.

          The second most likely person you are to use a gun on is your spouse, with men overwhelmingly preferring firearms as a form of spousal homicide.

          The third most likely person you are to use a gun on is a family/tenant.

          Home invaders are way down on the list of “at-home gun use” targets. And, to make things even more stick, police tend to be more concerned with facing an armed resident than actual burglars. This leads to a high rate of police homicides ruled justifiable, on the grounds that the officer entering the home believed that the resident possessed a gun.

          So, we’re looking at a solid four different likely ways keeping a gun in your home will result in the death of you or another lawful resident of your house.

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    Everyone should run scared for their life from a mass shooting. It’s a mass shooting.

    Everyone should also do what they can to minimize gun deaths in this country, obviously this guy isn’t doing that, but that is unrelated to how he should act during a mass shooting.

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    How much do you want to bet this coward bought his tickets and paid for his travel to Las Vegas and the food and hotel and whatever else while there with state taxpayer money?

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    This isn’t a “gotcha”. I’m a big fan of classic cars but that doesn’t mean I’ll stand there when one is driving fast straight at me.

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      I mean most pro-gun arguments boil down to “guns are needed because the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with one”, so when a large proponent of this argument is thrown into a situation where he could be the “good guy with a gun” and he instead runs away because he values his own life more than protecting the lives of those around him, maybe he should stop and dwell on that thought for a minute.

      Would I charge headfirst into gunfire? Absolutely not, and thats why I advocate for more gun control.

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    If Guns are so Safe why were people running AWAY from the Gun? Wouldn’t the Gunman be the Safest person there?