So why did we do stop the steal? Why did anyone go to January 6th? Why is anyone sitting in jail? Why did anything bad happen to anybody? Why did everyone get censored? Why is everything bad that has happened to the people that are involved? Why did that need to happen? If you’re just going to walk it all back and say, “oh, I lost.”
Well, that would have been good to know that before 1600 people got charged! It would have been good to know that before I had all my money frozen, put out a no fly list, banned from everything, lost all banking and payment processing!
Would have been good to know that. Before I, you know, in 2017, dedicated my life to this as an 18 year old in college. Just feels like a big rip off!

(Full transcript and video on the linked site.)

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    The fact that Nick Fuentes still has a fanbase after getting caught watching gay porn after a stream tells you how seriously he and his fans take their rhetoric.

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      Vaguely aware of who he is. Is he the type of republican that “accepts” gay people or the type to openly denigrate them?

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        Open denigration of them, Trans folks, women, Haitians, and all non-white Americans.

        He is a severely silly person who should not be taken seriously about anything by anyone. Unfortunately, he is taken VERY seriously by a dangerous group of folks.

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      That was clearly someone who got a hold of his stream key. I mean it wouldn’t surprise me if he was gay, also I think there was another instance where he actually was caught watching trans porn. But lying about that stream incident is pointless.

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        Yeah, it’s real fucking convenient that the Jews™ hacked into the stream of a raging anti-Semite after he signed off. It’s definitely more plausible than he accidentally started streaming his porn habits.🙄

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          It was a full screen montage of wild shit. It’s not like he opened up a pornhub tab after forgetting to end stream. Someone deliberately did that. Whether is was THE JOOZ or he did it himself to blame THE JOOZ I don’t really care, but it was not accidental. That’s terrible evidence for him being gay.

          If you want to call him gay, point out that he went on a date with a nazi catboy, or that he said fucking women is gay because they like dick. There’s a million better things than a stream hijack.

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            You do realize that it was Fuentes himself who blamed the Jews for gay porn being streamed on his channel, and I was pointing out how convenient it was that a bigot was blaming the objects of his bigotry for his problems, right?

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    I like the last line:

    I’m saying you can’t say those things for that reason.

    So Fuentes says that Trump can’t admit Trump lost, because that makes everything they did senseless. Which is what we’ve been saying all along. I mean, we were all trying to tell you Trump was lying, the newspapers and lawyers and courts were telling you he was lying, and you choose to listen to and believe in the wrong people.

    Now, here’s the thing: having come to this realization, that you were listening to the wrong people, and having suffered some of the consequences of that, why are you still listening to and believing these people?!?

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      So Fuentes says that Trump can’t admit Trump lost, because that makes everything they did senseless. Which is what we’ve been saying all along.

      I think he knew all along, but he saw the value in sowing doubt and making it part of his usurpation plans. If you can steal the executive branch and have enough people believe it was justified, because it was actually the counter reaction to a stolen vote, then you have an easier time of mystifying your history and maintaining international relations.

      You know like the old playbook of brown shirts in Germany who ended the Weimar Republic.

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    Just feels like a big rip off!

    We told you. Everyone told you. If you didn’t know then that’s on you.

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      What’s funny is that his video didn’t really talk about this.

      That’s all I want to talk about, how is it that you all ignored your peers who were just trying to help you.

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    I can agree with Nick Fuentes for the first time that if Nick Fuentes had known what an idiot Nick Fuentes is 8 years ago we could have all been spared.

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    It’s almost fascinating how he says all that and his conclusion is that ‘Trump shouldn’t have said it’ and not ‘Trump is a liar and taking advantage of his own supporters’.

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      The correct response would be:

      “I’m so sorry for being a tool for evil even though you guys kept telling me I’m being a tool for evil”.

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    As a former eighteen year old, I know from personal experience that eighteen year olds can be idiots. I almost feel bad for this douchebag, but I’m too busy laughing.

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      I too am a former 18 year old, and I just want to state that no matter what age you’re going to find fucking idiots.

      If anything it gets worse with age, and stubbornness.

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      Nick Fuentes was born in 1998, so it’s been a few years since he was 18.

      Also relevant: teenage me thought the future would be awesome because people like me would be in power. Nick Fuentes is several years younger than me, I would classify him as having more power than me nowadays (after all, journalists report on his opinions about things; journalists do not report on mine), so we can tell that my prediction was very wrong.

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        If it makes you feel any better, when I was young, I thought the Internet would bring the world together since you could sit and have a conversation with people all over the world with different perspectives, and befriending those from different walks of life would help break us out of small-town small-mindedness where everyone “not like us” is scary…

        Yeah, I might have been a bit too optimistic with that one.

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          Honestly I still think that to some extent; at least I think it would be like that if we didn’t have corporate social media showing us things only very selectively, but had something structured like old web forums where there was not even a way to sort by popularity.

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            I think it could serve that purpose (and honestly has to some degree), but the big thing that I didn’t consider when I was young was that a lot of people just want to hate (or to convince others to be focused on hate), and will find spaces to spread and amplify that hate. I underestimated the capacity and drive of those that would spread fear and anger.

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    Hey scar, it’s the hyenas at the door!

    So what happens if he wins? Would this guy just flip again and support him?

    Don’t be fooled, the Nazis just don’t like looking like losers.

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      But Nazi’s are histories biggest losers!

      We won a war against them, so they are already by definition losers.

      But that is not all. They were all like “We have the best people, nobody is as strong, intelligent, handsome, … as us. Our army is the best in the world, most high-tech, best supplied, …”

      Then they fought a single war and lost.

      Not only that, they lost against a coalition of many different countries that allowed anyone to join.

      So the Nazis were literally defeated by diversity and inclusivity.

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        But Nazi’s are histories biggest losers!

        Yes, that’s where their shame comes from, not from the horrible things they say, but from the fact that they are suppose to be superior and here we are.

        This is why a lot of Nazis keep their mouth shut until the coup is in progress, they know their rhetoric falls apparent unless they are winning.

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        So the Nazis were literally defeated by diversity and inclusivity.

        Well idk about literally, but it’s still a fair point.

        https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/african-americans-fought-freedom-home-and-abroad-during-world-war-ii#:~:text=The Army%2C Navy%2C and Marine,South to command Black infantrymen.

        More than one million African American men and women served in every branch of the US armed forces during World War II. In addition to battling the forces of Fascism abroad, these Americans also battled racism in the United States and in the US military. The Army, Navy, and Marine Corps all segregated African Americans into separate units because of the belief that they were not as capable as white service members. Adding to this indignity, the Army frequently assigned White officers from the American South to command Black infantrymen.

        In spite of these dispiriting obstacles, African Americans fought with distinction in every theater of the war. Some of the more famous Black units included the 332nd Fighter Group, which shot down 112 enemy planes during the course of 179 bomber escort missions over Europe, and the 761st Tank Battalion, which served in General George S. Patton’s Third Army. Major General Willard S. Paul, of the 26th Division, singled out the 761st for special praise after its first action in France by writing, “I consider the 761st Tank Battalion to have entered combat with such conspicuous courage and success as to warrant special commendation.”

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      So what happens if he wins? Would this guy just flip again and support him?

      Absolutely. Of course, it won’t matter because he’s not on the Trump inside track anymore. He’s just grifting from the periphery.

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      Trump invited him to Mar a Lago as a dinner guest one night and never explained/apologised for having a Nazi over for dinner, something that would kill any politician’s career, except of course for Trump.

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    I love how he says “You said you lost by a whisker? So what was the point?”… To grift off of Nazi losers like you? Maybe? I dunno. Just a hunch.

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    I hate to break this to you, you’ll want to be sitting for this, but the burning of the reichstag wasn’t by the Jews but by Hitler’s patsies and he would have probably left them out to dry and abandoned them if he thought it would help his own position, too.

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    “If we had known you were lying would admit you were lying we wouldn’t have done any of this how dare you!”