Summary
The Trump administration fired Vice Adm. Shoshana Chatfield, the only woman on NATO’s military committee, reportedly due to past statements supporting diversity.
Chatfield, a decorated Navy pilot and Afghanistan veteran, appeared on a conservative “woke” watchlist targeting senior military officials who promoted DEI.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, leading the anti-DEI campaign, made the call, though it’s unclear if Trump directly ordered it.
Chatfield is the third top female officer dismissed under Trump. Critics warned the firings undermine military leadership and damage U.S. alliances.
Hegseth doesn’t think women should be in the military. The DUI-hire is gradually working on it - I think we will at least see a return to a ban on serving in combat roles within a year or so.
Think we’ll see a draft enacted to shore up the missing positions?
Funnily enough - as a transgender man, I am signed up for the Selective Service (they make you do it for FAFSA - get flagged if you put down male anywhere.) I’ve heard that I was supposed to get some sort of letter disqualifying me, but I just got the regular card. Guess I could be marching next to y’all in WW3.
Nah, you’d be disqualified during intake. Silver lining I guess?
If you’re 26 or older, you’re legally aged out of it (not that i think that means much at this point)
We haven’t had enough enlistment to fill our military needs in decades. We have as many hired contractors as enlisted. The contractors are majority non US citizens.
We’ve been avoiding a draft because it would cause major resistance to our unnecessary military activities that can currently be pushed to the back of most people’s minds.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/us-military-forces-fy-2021-space-sof-civilians-and-contractors
Operational contractors continue to play a vital role in CENTCOM, holding a 2.8 to 1 ratio of contractors to military (up from 1.7 to 1 last year) as military forces exit Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan while contractors stay behind.
Wow that link threw me for a second. I was trying to figure out what CSIS was doing with a .org website.
Treated like shit for 4 years, paid a pittance, and left to rot after… I can only wonder why they’re struggling to fill rank.
I heard they recently filled their quota for 2 branches recently, due to military propaganda like top gun Maverick. When before, due to COVID they lost a ton of recruits
The US military is not draft friendly. Far too much of our doctrine is built around “skilled” combat (e.g. maneuver warfare) and our superiority comes from technology which has a high cost per soldier (the NVGs that Scumbag Steve lost cost more than it would to rush him through boot camp…) and requires maintenance. And, if we move forward with the XM7, that means fewer bullets per soldier which means a greater need to actually aim (and be indoctrinated so that they will aim at the brown person rather than fire over their heads).
Obviously we can do a massive doctrine change. But “senior military” will gladly support efforts that remove competition so that they can get promoted into a woman’s place. They won’t support efforts that will make them look incompetent when (and it is “when”…) we actually use the military… or that will impact all those “totally friendly” gifts and vacations they get from the companies building this gear.
In the event of a land war against Canada? All bets are off and you can be damned sure there will be “patriotic” efforts for “new recruits” to buy their own AR-15s from Walmart before reporting to the trenches. But that will happen regardless of whether the pesky women and gays and brown people have been cleansed from the military first.
Everyone (rightfully) shat on how ill equipped the russian military was outside of their “elites”. And… there is a reason for that. You don’t give someone off the street optics that cost a down payment or two on their pickup truck. Partially because they will lose (or sell) it. Mostly because they won’t know how to use it. WW2/Vietnam era boot camp was basically “This is a gun. Point this end at the <ethnic slur>. Pull the trigger a few times to keep their heads down while someone competent does the rest”.
Small point of correction there - Walmart doesn’t sell AR-15s or any other similar semi-auto rifle, nor do they sell handguns. They pared back gun offerings in the last decade to only basic hunting stuff like shotguns, bolt-action rifles. They don’t even sell handgun ammo or “assault rifle” ammo now.
The specialty of the US military has always been logistics AFAIK. They’ll traditionally endlessly throw bodies and money at maintaining supply lines to uphold their own morale and wait for their enemy to surrender. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_cream_barge
Not sure how well that’ll work in the face of modern warfare, drones and sabotage seem more effective.
So basically Russia is doing but with more tech and supplies.
drones and sabotage seem more effective
The drones need to be launched, and saboteurs deployed, near their targets. That means logistics.
Fucking up supply chains with brainless tariffs will massively damage logistics.
Maybe, I’ve seen a lot of recent increases in advertisements to join the military. If that crap starts up, that’ll be what gets me to leave the country. There isnt a thing in the world that could get me to fight for these dipshits kn their misguided wars.
If they institute a draft you’re not going to be allowed to leave the country.
It’ll be for vacation, obviously I’ll be booking a return trip.
When there is a war, HitlerPig will definitely have a draft, if for no other reason that he will think its amusing to watch people get pissed off about it. At his core, he is a Troll.
Nothing is more evil than a draft, when the government literally enslaves young men to be forced to kill or be kill.
And it will be young men, these Neanderthals will want the young girls to stay behind so the Sociopathic Oligarchs have the pick of the tenderonis without the competiton of young men. Skum has all the money in the world, and he still can’t find a loving partner, even if he wants to buy one. The only way hes been able to have DNA Storage Units/ Human Shields, is by renting wombs. Maybe if we kill off all the young men under 30 years old, he can find a desperate young woman to be his concubine.
I will state this unequivocally: My son will NEVER take part in any MAGA war. At least, not on their side.
And if HitlerPig decides to skip the concept of a draft system, and resorts to the Russian style of draft, and have press gangs driving around in trucks, literally snatching men off the streets, and they get my son (or they ship him off to the new Guantanamo Concentration Camp), I will have nothing left to lose, and I will become a VERY dangerous man indeed.
Likely they want to use the draft to “break men in”.
Joke’s on them, not only do I have my DD-214, I’m even more old and broken now!
But he thinks his wife should be allowed to join him in high level meetings…
They’re making sure that when the miIitary is used against civilians, there are nothing but yes-men at the higher ranks.
The general forces of the military are minorities and females now. Sure the top brass can control smaller special operations teams to their whims. But I doubt the general forces will turn on the people of the country. Think Soviets trying to stop the independence during the early 90’s. The soldiers just didn’t listen.
A lot of them are in because it can offer an escape from poverty, and training involves hammering home that they have to just follow orders. They’re going to go along like everyone else because defying orders is a big personal risk for people who are not in a position to just lose everything.
I don’t know if you know this. But a lot of the HIGH skilled Military are LGBTQ+. I lived next to three installations. I have friends in many different levels of intelligence and SF. There are many who would refuse an illegal order. They can try and DEI these people out. But it would be impossible in some departments.
I live on an island covered in military bases and have been on them both locally and elsewhere for various reasons. It’s not all MAGA, but it’s also not an environment of woke resistors. Those high skilled people ready to refuse are the exception, not the norm, and they’re not the people a declaration of martial law would rely on.
A martial law order isn’t going to look like “go shoot some hippies”, it’s going to be seizing and holding important infrastructure, setting up checkpoints, and enforcing a curfew. That stuff can all be military-speak formatted to look like just perfectly fine orders under exigent circumstances. If violence happens it will be plausibly framed as defending those “legitimate” orders, and it will likely be performed by people who are loyalists. The rest will just be there to support and protect them.
This is something more people need to understand. Military orders don’t come down as “invade that city and kill everyone”. They are a lot more specific and worded in such a way that they are almost mundane. This is by design.
One thing we used to have going for us was that most of the top brass hated Trump. They thought he was not only stupid, but also a threat to national security. That’s why Tuberville stalled all those appointments and promotions, and it’s why they are now shitcanning so many top leaders and replacing them with unqualified goons.
Especially a lot of them are in the closet too.
Trump is obsessed with looking at half-naked photos of putin riding pony.
You mean that time the USSR got coup’ed by the US who empowered the fascists there and then the eastern block starved for 10 years?
Nobody likes a quiter.
Smart to let all the experienced people go, now the resistance can no longer turn them.
It’s the rise of the Empire
Watching Bad Batch or Rogue One nowadays is like looking in a mirror
It’s the fall of the empire, America never had a golden era of the Republic.
Fall of the republic, rise of the empire. Rome. We had some good decades with an actual middle class. Always room for improvement but the 80s-early 10s were overall pretty good for most Americans.
That was the beginning of the collapse, when American politicians finally reversed the advances made by their economic base during the postwar boom and started capturing the value of our increasing productivity for themselves.
You’re not wrong but it allowed a few generations to be quite comfortable. Stole our future for their comfort at the time but that the comfort existed and could have continued without such greed is just another nail in the laissez faire capitalist coffin.
It allowed segments of that generation to be comfortable at the expense of the rest of that generation.
Large segments. There’s never a perfect golden age anywhere if we only look at poverty.
1983: housing crash and prime rate to 17%. A mortgage at 17% is not a good first half-decade, Meg!
The 80s sucked. Pop culture makes it look cooler than it was. Imagine going back time thinking it’ll be cool only to end up impoverished and having to deal with a crime rate massively higher than today.
Well maybe if we put lead back in the gas, on the toys, and build the pipes out of it we could have that high crime rate again. If it wasn’t for you SJW woke sissies we couldve turned everything into the 1993 Mario movie!
If you can’t tell this is a joke I don’t know what to tell you.
God, imagine how good everything would taste of we could just get lead back into everything. Paint chips are back on the menu!
And yet houses were affordable. The rate of home ownership was 65.6% in 1980 and was 65.6% in 2024 as well. The Volker shock started under Carter and continued under Reagan was much more impactful in the strong growth economy to follow than the Reagan tax cuts.
I mean, sure if you don’t count the pandemic that killed millions of Americans…
By replacing all the experienced, knowledgeable people with blind loyalists, they have given the Resistance the gift of competence. When the revolution comes, the resistance will have intelligent, competent, experienced people to lead them against the idiotic MAGA Nazis.
In addition, there are thousands of good people still working there, who are proud of their work with the government, and hate what has happened to their leadership, their colleagues, and their agencies. Those people will be ripe for recruitment as moles, leaks, sabotage, etc., while the MAGA Nazis will only have ignorant dolts to count on.
It won’t matter if they have the big weapons, if the people they are counting on to operate them turn them against the government, or destroy them in advance.
there are thousands of good people still working there
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Why would I out our undercover agents?
She’s a woman therefore is woke. That about republikkkans?
Snowflake Trump literally implemented woke tariffs and was not fired.
If I were in the 0.1% I’d be able to build my own small but highly skilled militia by giving a job to all of the so-called “DEI hires” Trump is getting rid of.
Woke list = purge list
The modern McCarthy Era “communist” list
Except this version of McCarthy has been riding Russia’s nuts for decades
And as everyone know, purging your military is a great way to reduce their combat effectiveness.
That’s the point, and Putin wants this
Jesus fucking Christ. America during ww2 would have lost badly if this type of shit was going on back then. From day 1 all countries on the allied side mass employed women in roles previously held exclusively by men.
Look up the WASPs and the WAVES during ww2. Not to mention the sheer amount of women working in manufacturing and transport and other stuff. Rosey the riveter was real. Marlin Monroe, one of the sexiest women of all time was one such gal during the war.
And don’t get me started on munitions plants. Women were employed in manufacturing high explosives from day 1 (there are photographs from the 1890s showing women mixing nitroglycerin and diatomaceous earth to make dynamite, and the manufacture of blasting caps, the stuff using the most sensitive explosives, was the sole domain of women for a long time). WW2 Orientation films from Canada show this.
That woman EARNED her position. She is not DEI. But Pete Hegseth IS DEI.
Marlin Monroe
There’s something fishy about that anecdote.
“Roe” has always been part of her name.
I feel like female is in the wrong spot in the title because “senior navy officer” amounts to a single noun/title
When (if?) the rule of law is restored to the USA, tax payers are going to pay so so dearly after the tsunami of wrongful dismissal lawsuits…
Make the billionaires who interfered in the political process personally liable.
they voted for this, and should pay.
Is hiring based on skin color protected by the government?
Yes, MAGA is an affirmative action program for dimwitted white males.
trump’s gov? absolutelly
To the point they rather have the most mediocre people as long as they are white
maybe stock market needs to be banned for identifying as a bear ?
So this person gets fired for being too “woke” in her statements supporting diversity, but Tulsi Gabbert can repost Russian propaganda and nothing happens. Got it.
No reason to apply logic to Trump’s cabinet. Anything to attain power will be justified, no matter how ridiculous the explanation.
Putin told trump, tulsi is off limits
Aka “The Krasnov Effect”
Punish these fired people by sending them to europe! Would be such a terrible punishment for them!
While criticizing discriminatory government hiring try to make sure not to lionize imperialist war criminals just because they aren’t white men.
Isn’t this old news?
Or am I thinking they fired some Coast Guard woman as well?
This is a new woman fired for being a woman. The big news one was the Coast Guard who had a woman leading the entire force.
