Here we go. The showdown we all knew was coming.
P…S. they can’t allow him to return and report on what goes on there. I’m willing to bet he is dead or will soon be killed.
Showdown maybe. They don’t have a deadline or consequences for failing to act or requirement that they actually take steps which result in his being returned to the US.
The constitutional crisis has been underway since inaguration day, but the wheels of justice grind slowly so there is some delay between getting knocked off track and the inevitable trainwreck.
There are no wheels of justice on this sinking ship. If justice were to come it’d be from somewhere else.
The showdown is the answer of the question “Will trump disobey the orders of the supreme court of the land?” If that answer is yes then we are in an interesting timeline
Maybe they’ll send a sternly worded email.
Looking at the Google Earth pictures, it looks like this isn’t a prison but a death camp.
Maybe that’s why they are fighting so hard to bring him back, because everyone would learn what they did.
Edit: if your didn’t see the posts, search CECOT on Google maps. It also looks like there might be mass graves up north.
They sent them to jail, yet we don’t know what they exactly did (all they told us they were in a vegetable gang), we don’t know how long they supposed to be jailed and how would they finish serving their sentence. Most of those people aren’t even from El Salvador, so where would they go after.
It looks like they are never meant to leave the place and the payment was one time, so it looks like he just outsourced the killing.
CECOT Prisoners are not intended to leave, ever, according to Bukele’s justice minister. 156 violent people shoved into 100 square meter cells with no regard for gang affiliation. Steel bunks 3 levels high - no mats, no windows, just a toilet and wash basin shared among everyone in a cell. They’re fed rice without utensils, and provided zero outdoor time or visitation.
Basically a steel and concrete pit built to make people wish they got the death penalty.
It looks like a cattle farm from the sky, except that cattle barns have plenty of windows and usually allow the cows some level of movement.
I assume you mean 100 square feet cells? 100 square meter cells sounds quite luxurious - unless that’s the total area.
100 m2 cell with 156 people per cell = .6 m2 per person. In reality even less, as it doesn’t account space for bunks.
They put a lot of people in the cells, not just 2 or 3. So they are quite large and still quite crowded.
search CECOT on Google maps
I’ve seen enough WWII movies to know what a stalag looks like.
It looks like there is PLENTY of room to expand.
But why? Keeping each prisoner alive costs.
Sometimes they ask for one back.
Who? Normally this prison is for Salvadorans.
I don’t think they expected that guy getting recognized. They called them foreign alien terrorists to make sure the reaction is negative.
More and more looks like what is really going on is that trump thinks to use this prison/death camp to get rid of his opposition and using foreign country is to skip the US Constitution.
Those people were sent to test the ground, he just looked for immigrants with tattoos so he could call them gang members.
One this worked the plan (and he admitted himself) was to send the “worst of the worst” US citizens there.
The problem is that now he is deciding who is “worst of the worst”.
The reason he is doing this in stages is to get people to get used that sending people without trial to foreign prison is normal.
El Salvador is avery Catholic country, so they can’t kill prisoners.
Bloodiest wars in world’s history were religious wars.
I am Catholic myself and I know a lot of people that call themselves Christians and are for death penalty.
Also we don’t even know the religion of current dictator/president, so I think that argument is moot.
There’s a BIG fence around it and I’m certain that none of the “locals” are employed there.
I see what looks like tree farms, where are you seeing mass graves?
“Here he is!”
head shaven, 30lbs lighter, scars on his head, won’t say complete sentences or look anyone in the face.
“He’s fine!”
Trump will ignore them, they will do nothing.
They showed the prison on the news but didn’t show the prisoners from America. That’s suspicious
Puppy Killer Noem, and a network news journalist have managed to get permission to get into that prison with camera crews, but somehow the entire HitlerPig administration cant seem to reach anyone who can authorize this guy’s release?
9-0??
Somebody miss a payment to Clarence Thomas?
I’m guessing Roberts and Alito know the admin will ignore this court order and pushed Thomas to make it unanimous for the fight to keep the judiciary an actual branch of the government that is to follow
The ruling is also meaningless. They ruled the US has to “facilitate” his return, but does not have to “effectuate” his return. The admin will interpret this to mean that as long as El Salvador doesn’t take active steps to send him back, the US doesn’t have to do anything to try to make them.
I believe the original Federal judge has clarified the order?
Here’s a link to the ruling issued just a couple hours ago & is requiring a response by early tomorrow morning:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/
EDIT: Here’s the direct text:
The Supreme Court’s April 10, 2025 decision in Noem v. Abrego Garcia, 604 U.S.—–, No. 24A949, affirmed this Court’s Order at ECF No. 21 (the “Order”), and directed that on remand, this Court clarify its use of the term “effectuate,” according proper deference to the Executive Branch in its conduct of foreign affairs. See Slip Op. at 2. To this end, the Court hereby amends the Order to DIRECT that Defendants take all available steps to facilitate the return of Abrego Garcia to the United States as soon as possible. Further, as the Supreme Court made clear, “the Government should be prepared to share what it can concerning the steps it has taken and the prospect of further steps.” See Slip Op. at 2.
Accordingly, the Court DIRECTS Defendants to file, by no later than 9:30 AM ET on Friday, April 11, 2025, a supplemental declaration from an individual with personal knowledge, addressing the following: (1) the current physical location and custodial status of Abrego Garcia; (2) what steps, if any, Defendants have taken to facilitate Abrego Garcia’s immediate return to the United States; and (3) what additional steps Defendants will take, and when, to facilitate his return. To the extent Defendants believe any portion of their submission must be filed under 1 Case 8:25-cv-00951-PX Document 51 Filed 04/10/25 Page 2 of 2 seal, they shall comply with the Court’s Local Rules governing the sealing of materials. See D. Md. Loc. R. 105.11.
Finally, the Court will hold an in-person status conference on Friday, April 11, 2025, at 1:00 PM ET, at the United States District Court for the District of Maryland, 6500 Cherrywood Lane, Greenbelt, Maryland 20770.
That’s wild, usually he can be counted on to write something about how Thomas Jefferson actually wanted everyone to get in fatal plane crashes every day.
I heard his RV is a little run down.
Could have gotten a brand new one from John Oliver.
9-0? Hell has been freezing over a lot these past couple days.
Honestly, knowing the brutality of prisons… he might be dead. In which case, not only is it a showdown between the executive and judicial branches. It would lead to actual chaos as the Right has to try to make the unjust death of a man sound noble in the name of politics and the the Left struggles to figure out what the hell you do to bring justice when no one wants to serve it.
I pray he can return home safe and sound.
Here’s their justification
“Brown gang member”
That’s literally all terrified white Christian nationalists need to hear.
Doesn’t matter at all whether it’s true or not.
The Trump administration had, in these cases, doubled down with an argument that was incredible in its breadth: not only can courts not order the government to undo erroneous removals, it argued — it could also do the same to U.S. citizens, evading judicial scrutiny so long as it all took place before a lawsuit was filed.
Bruh 💀
See y’all in El Salvador 😭
Importantly, they replaced the lower Court’s order to “effectuate” his return with “facilitate” and defined “facilitate” as to remove any barriers to his return on the US side.
So the ruling is actually “Don’t prevent the government from which he was fleeing and that is now holding him prisoner in a labor camp from flying him back to the US for asylum.”
There is a reply by the user monstrosity with a quote in which the Supreme Court clarified that it meant effectuate, and they’re holding a status meeting this morning to see what progress is made.
“Pinky swear you’ll put the Uber app on your phone and send him a ride.”
The task is impossible as he’s already dead.
There will be more excuses and more delays until they do something more stupid to get your attention off that.
Curtis Yarvin, the Neil Breen of political “philosophers,” wrote that ignoring the courts is part of the plan- here’s his test case.
Oh no you’re reading this wrong. SCOTUS just gave them permission. They said they must “facilitate” and that the lower courts order to “effectuate” was likely an over step.
The payload here is that facilitating means they’ll send an official request that El Salvador will officially deny and then tell everyone they did everything they were ordered to do.
Roberts - “YOU STUPID BASTARD, YOU’RE GOING TO GET US ALL KILLED, AND I DON’T EVEN HAVE 2 YACHTS YET! MAKE IT HAPPEN, NOW!”
Trump - “FUCK YOU, I’M GOING TO TELL MY DADDY PUTIN ON YOU! WATCH WHAT YOU TOUCH AND DRINK FROM NOW ON, MOTHERFUCKER! I AM KING OF THE WORLD!”
Thank fuck, was very worried it was a total lost cause
They did not set any conditions on his return. Trump will just ignore the order and claim to be “working on it”
Nope, news everywhere has been fucking this headline up. SCOTUS defined the government’s duty as requesting his release politely and allowing him back in if El Salvador does release him. The previous ruling would have forced the state department to tell El Salvador they must do it, or else. This is a far lower standard and will not be enough to get him released because the leadership in El Salvador knows Trump doesn’t want the guy to come back.
How Abrego Garcia wound up in the mix remains unclear. The Trump administration frustrated one district court’s attempts to determine what happened by invoking the state secrets privilege over basic questions about the operation; it’s only said that Abrego Garcia was wrongly removed because he was placed on an alternate manifest that failed to note the order barring his removal.
After attorneys sued on Abrego Garcia’s behalf, a district court judge in Maryland, the state in which he was detained, ordered the government to facilitate his return.
They are going to kill him, otherwise he will talk and all the secrets will come out.
…or what?
It’ll go on Trump’s permanent record…which will prevent him from…well it won’t prevent him from doing anything
Or the court can nominate project to enact their will.
We’re putting together a team…
Facilitate, with no staff cause of DOGE.
who’s gonna make him?
