So I made a comment on worldnews criticizing Chinese activity in the south china sea and apparently got banned for it by the automod. This happen to anyone else? Is this Lemmy’s version of the need help post and the shape of things to come?

The instance I posted in was Lemmy.ml

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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      Yep.

      Fastest way to get banned there is to give valid criticism of China or Russia.

      One of the Tankiest of tankie instances

        • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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          Because no likey da Americans

          These morons think Iran is a bastion of anti-colonial resistance

          Iran

          The theocracy

          The successor state to one of the longest running imperial projects in human history

          The state currently organizing proxies to destabilize it’s neighbors with the intention of letting a puppet state take all of it for integration within it’s sphere of influence

          That Iran.

          Tankies have no values and even fewer brain cells.

            • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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              A few are Canadians who think letting the prairie provinces have nice things will lead to the second war of 1812, but yeah, they’re almost always bougie US kids. Why I always call them Bougyeviks.

              All the ideology, none of the actual connection to the people who need the most help

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          Tankies love fascist dictatorships. That’s their whole shtick.

          • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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            Yep, this.

            They are convinced they are gonna be part of the ruling class, So they fucking love fascist authoritarian dictatorship.

            The overwhelming irony is that they would most likely be the ones purged, not the ones ruling.

        • ChowJeeBai@lemmy.worldOP
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          Sow disinformation about the west, erode tust.

          Now, bear in mind I’m acutely aware of the strengths of china, and the failings of the us, but when the 300lb gorilla is in your backyard eyeing your kids, you get involved with the gorilla, and keep and eye on what is happening in office politics and in the neighbours yard.

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          Because there are reactionaries. It’s like PETA or angry vegans who are in it for the moral superiority rather than making the world a better place.

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          Inability to hold nominally conflicting ideas. You can be a socialist and be against the actions of countries that claim to be socialist. Likewise you can be capitalist and be against the actions of countries that claim to be capitalist.

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        Isn’t that the developer instance? Are the developers tanki communists? (I don’t believe a real communist would want to support china OR russia since they aren’t actually communists)

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    Block these instances: lemmy.ml lemmygrad.ml hexbear.net

    There is no point arguing with tankies. They are dumb and they won’t change. I just hope there will be a way to completely block those users including their comments. They are polluting the fediverse.

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      I just hope there will be a way to completely block […] users including their comments.

      Remember who the developers are.

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        Yeah. I hope kbin will grow and have a decent mobile app, then I can finally move over.

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          But… Kbin can federate just as easily with those instances as Lemmy. You shouldn’t think “I’m going to move to kbin”, that wouldn’t help in any way.

          You should rather move to an instance (using any backend you like, Lemmy, Kbin, doesn’t matter) that has defederated from the instances you don’t want to interact with.

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            When I tried the Interstellar app earlier, it crashed frequently. Just tried it again with the current version and it seems to be very stable now. Thanks for the suggestion.

            Is there something unique about kbin.earth? I am using kbin.melroy.org for now, which runs on mbin.

      • SavvyWolf@pawb.social
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        They seem to be really anti-nsfw, so that could be a driving force for improving their instance blocking (and is probably the only reason it exists in the first place).

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        I got a permanent ban on lemmygrad within days of making an account, see supporting Ukraine defend itself is obviously NATO apologia. I think the problem wasn’t even my stance but that were actually convincing, they’re not blocking you for saying “fuck tankies” or making bad arguments, they keep that stuff up to make, by extension, any criticism of their party line look stupid.

        Only got temporary bans on lemmy.ml, for things such as pointing out that OP’s article itself said that Ukraine didn’t lay claim to the territories in Russia it officially recognises as “historically linguistically Ukrainian” in response to others in the thread doing the usual “Zelensky is a Nazi oppression Russian speakers” thing (never mind Zelensky being a native Russian speaker and Jew).

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        I got banned from some of these as well! First time I’ve ever been banned from anything lol. Guess it’s a badge of honor on lemmy

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      I just hope there will be a way to completely block those users including their comments. They are polluting the fediverse.

      There already is, go to an instance that defederates from them. Or try to convince your current instance to do it. Or make your own personal instance so you’re in control of what you defederate from.

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        Based on what china is doing to fishing and military boats from the Philippines, I doubt they’re just after ‘transit’. They’re making a territorial claim. Not much different from Russia’s claim on Ukraine, except that its happening in international waters.

        This is what OP was banned for. It’s not just the world news community, the admins police wrongthink across the entire instance.

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          I wonder what the listed offence was, because what OP stated in the comment is absolutely true. Did they conveniently forget the 9-dash line? China is absolutely laying claim to waters that have already been declared to belong to the Philippines.

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          And the Streisand effect has carried those words to people who would have never seen them.

          Hope you’re reading this .ml!

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        Not at all. There’s nothing good that has .ml at the end of it here. You’re missing nothing.

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          This is blatantly not true. To sign up for lemmy.ml, you have to provide an email, name, and a couple sentences of why you’re joining. You should stop inventing false statements and spewing them on the internet. It’s not good for anyone. In fact, it makes everyone who dislikes lemmy.ml look like idiots.

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            Yeah I had an account there too and I set it up like every other account. Found out later on that ml was Marxist Lennin so I setup shop at lemm.ee instead

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              .ml is the top level domain for the country of Mali. .ml domains are free, so it is just a coincidence. Also, Marxist-Leninism is not a ‘tankie’ theory, by itself. There are plenty of communists and socialists that aren’t simps for China and Russia.

              I would even say that you can’t be a true communist and support either of these countries, because these countries are not communist at all. They are just authoritarian capitalistic hellholes, with sprinkles of social policies to give the illusion of pursuing a communist society.

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              I never knew whether that was true, I just drifted away from it. .ml just means it is on a domain designated for Mali, but they could have explicitly chosen that domain to use it for another purpose.

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    Lemmy.ml is a tankie instance that loves China and hates western countries. Unfortunately, it’s also one of the biggest Lemmy instances because it’s run by the main devs of Lemmy (who created Lemmy because they were frequently banned on other sites for bootlicking for China). Thankfully, Lemmy is open source and the nature of how it runs allows everyone to ignore the weird ideologies of the devs.

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            alien.top is an instance that scrapes Reddit and mirrors posts and comments, creating bot accounts with the same username as the original poster. The intent was to make it easy for users to migrate away from Reddit (just claim the bot account with your username), but everyone pointed out the obvious ethical problems of mass plagiarizing and how nobody on Reddit can see any replies you make. It was also super spammy and 99℅ of the comments are from those scraper bots, so most instances defederated from them.

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              I’ve got lemmit blocked for similar reasons. I don’t really know much of it, but that lemmit bot was annoying me and I just sort of assumed the entire instance was probably just Reddit posts so blocked it

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      Believe me. I’ve noticed.

      Just ignore them. They open with ad hominem attacks, or myriad assumptions about age, account credibiltiy based on registration date, nationality vs ethnicity, political leanings, etc. and demand your response. Let them stew in their ignorant hate.

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        lemmygrad is a full-on cult, lemmy.ml is its public front and embassy, and hexbear, well, there’s plenty of idiots on hexbear, the problem with hexbearians isn’t that they’re Stalinists but that they think signal politics does anything, hence also their propensity to pile. At least in the past I think they’ve given up on doing it outside hexbear.

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        Two of them are practically dead.

        Hexbear is just the exodus of ChapoTrapHouse and a few affiliated sites from when Reddit kicked its ban policy into high gear. The Akira Toriyama Megathread and Online Movie Night top-posts seem about as sincere and good natured as anything on any other social media site.

  • laverabe@lemmy.world
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    thanks for the heads up. I just unjoined all lemmy.ml communities, and blocked the instance. That sort of censorship is not a good thing.

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      Some of them came here from Reddit when chapo trap house got banned. Others are straight up BRICS propaganda accounts.

      • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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        Ok what even the hell is BRICS at this point? It’s geopolitical “stop trying to make Fetch happen!” by now, two of it’s members are in active decline, one is at the edge of being a failed state, and the other two are about as actually committed to some kind of anti-western bloc as the average American prison is to respecting human rights.

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          Yep. It’s a joke. Was always going to be a joke. Maybe without authoritarian assholes leading the two largest members it could have become something.

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    Yes, I posted a ProPublica article about how the CCP uses organized crime to intimidate Chinese citizens abroad and got banned from the entire instance for it.

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      It gets juicer. Just read some of the comments here. These people need to touch grass or something.

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    I have accidentally responded to posts there but have since blocked the instance. Nothing good can come from engaging with them.

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    For those of you asking/ curious, the reason given was ‘yellow peril’. Really? I guess my being asian and directly affected by the Chinese activities in the scs makes me somehow a threat to yellow people?

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      Same. I literally have family in China and therefore a real stake in Chinese society. Meanwhile a bunch of western tankies who have never been to China and don’t speak the language hand down bans merely for me relaying conversations I’ve actually had with real Chinese people in their native language about Chinese history and politics.

      It’s simple racism to infantilise all Chinese people like this, believing they need a bunch of white saviors on the Internet to speak for them and guard their cultural chastity.

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        Simply mentioning china or any ethnicity at all is seen as racism to them because grounding reality in anything other than communist propaganda is seen as a threat.

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          Holy shit theyve drunk the cool aid. There’s articles about mainland students just exploding in college classes when bringing up Chinese topics. Or the video about the piano player being intimidated and wrongly accused of impropriety for making a video. The problem is when the authorities side with these bullies, or play it down.

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        Did you know that if you support Ukraine, the tankies say that makes you racist against Asians? No joke , that’s what I was called. You see, they say, Russia is actually an Asian country.

        This isn’t a joke and happened to me. And the people were really really cross with me.