• derf82@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    So freaking stupid. You don’t like the way Biden is handling Gaza, so you turn to the man who * checks notes * wants to ban Muslims from entering America and moved the US embassy to Jerusalem against Palestinian wishes? You think he will do a better job for Gaza? He will cheerlead a genocide.

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      9 months ago

      This campaign is about the primaries, not the general election. They have not told anyone to vote for Trump.

      The Dems took voters for granted in 2016 and got what they deserved. They should be thanking this campaign but shooting the messenger is so much easier, so they won’t.

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        9 months ago

        It’s funny to hear all the crybaby dnc sycophants who support genocide saying the same dumb talking points again and again.

        I’m starting to think they are bots, because it would get boring just saying the same stupid shit over and over again.

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          Who the hell supports genocide? If we don’t vote for status quo Joe we get Mango Mussolini who’s not only bad for the us he’s bad for the world… He literally only cares about himself

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            9 months ago

            Who the hell supports genocide?

            Joe Biden. That’s why 100,000 Michiganders just voted “uncommitted”.

            Also Trump, but the only people who want him to win are Republicans.

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              9 months ago

              Indeed, but the comment was aimed at “crybaby DNC sycophants” as in anyone who is voting for Biden was somehow for genocide.

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                  9 months ago

                  You’re right! Sorry, I’ll throw my vote away vote green and accomplish absofuckinglutley nothing but at least I can pat myself on the back and Stay Pure™ while the country burns around me!

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        I didn’t vote for Biden or Trump in any primary or general. Doing the same thing this cycle. I don’t vote for lesser of two evils. If you don’t like that then you vote for the lesser genocidal maniac. Makes you kind of creepy in my opinion and I wouldn’t invite you over for dinner or anything, but you do you.

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          9 months ago

          Mostly out of curiosity, what exactly makes Biden an evil in your mind? If it’s the middle east what, exactly do you want him to do? The President doesn’t possess the power to unilaterally declare war, all be can really do us shout at Israel to stop and strongly encourage Congress to do… Well anything at all.

          What would make Biden a real evil, at least in my mind is if we had a functional legislative branch and he was vetoing every piece of aid they passed to those countries, or if he was overreaching with his executive orders to do things that blatantly belong to another branch of our government. Guess what Trump would do.

          The only time the President really has much power is if they have a Congress that’s aligned with their goals, and in the current cycle everything Biden has tried to do has been shot down by one of the other two braches. I suspect though, that if Congress passed an aid package to Ukraine or Palestine, Biden would not obstruct.

          If it’s because Bernie got shafted by the DNC and now we have Biden, I personally think given how our government works, Bernie can do way more good in the Senate than he could ever do as a president, and we need to load Congress up with as many people who idealistically align with him or at least, don’t conflict and are willing to actually run our government.

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        9 months ago

        And what was the point? At best, it’s being a a useful idiot for conservatives, as this isn’t being reported as pro-Gaza, but as anti-Biden.

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          And what was the point?

          The point is that running against someone worse doesn’t give anyone a free pass to actively support crimes against humanity.

          Just because we vastly prefer him over the other guy doesn’t mean we have to pretend that he can do no wrong and meekly accept that he’s complicit in some of the worst atrocities being committed in the world right now.

          this isn’t being reported as pro-Gaza, but as anti-Biden.

          Because the billionaire-owned MSM, like you, has an enormous pro-Biden bias and is married to the false dichotomy of “other guy worse means our guy blameless”

          “Better than Trump” is far too low a bar for anyone of importance, much less one of the most powerful and influential human beings in the world.

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            Just because we vastly prefer him over the other guy doesn’t mean we have to pretend that he can do no wrong and meekly accept that he’s complicit in some of the worst atrocities being committed in the world right now.

            Who says you can’t? I don’t like Biden, either. But making him look weak just pushes us toward another Trump term.

            Because the billionaire-owned MSM, like you, has an enormous pro-Biden bias and is married to the false dichotomy of “other guy worse means our guy blameless”

            Lol, do you think the media has a pro-Biden bias? Quite the opposite. Biden misspeaks about some foreign leader, and the media rushes to print “Is Biden too senile?” while Trump forgets his wife’s name and you get crickets from the MSM. The MSM regularly buries negative Trump stories while amplifying anything to make you question Biden. This reporting is proof of that. I do not get how you think reporting that this vote is anti-Biden is somehow pro-Biden.

            “Better than Trump” is far too low a bar for anyone of importance, much less one of the most powerful and influential human beings in the world.

            It is, but it is the only bar we have. Again, this is shaping up to be 2016 all over again. People don’t like the Dem, so they stay home and let Trump eke out a narrow victory.

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              9 months ago

              So many fucking words to just reiterate the same false dichotomy and spout Trump-like false martyrdom claims 🤦

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                What false dichotomy? Dichotomy might be the best definition for our 2 party system. We indeed have an actual dichotomy.

                Yes, I’d rather have a different choice. There certainly isn’t a dichotomy of ideas. But when it comes down to it, Biden and Trump will be the only legitimate choices on the ballot.

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                  The false dichotomy is that all mentions of either of them boil down to either “Trump bad so Biden good” or “Biden bad so Trump good”.

                  It’s lazy, it’s disingenuous and it destroys all hope of keeping elected officials from your own “team” accountable for their words, actions and lack of both.

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          He barely won from Trump last time. Even without Genocide this would have been a close race.

          There won’t be many enthousiastic canvassers either. Unless Trump (or Biden) literally dies this is looking like an FF15

          Y’all heard of Cornel West by the way? Great Guy.