I just think it’s silly that people think it actually works.
Besides, if AI really is powerful enough to make a splash in the world, wouldn’t you WANT it to contain your data? That would make it more favorable to your viewpoints.
I’m quite familiar. It legally works, if you can prove that your data actually made it into the training set, you might be able to successfully sue them. That’s extremely unlikely though. If you can’t litigate a law, then it essentially doesn’t exist.
Besides, a researcher scraping websites isn’t going to take the time to filter out random pieces of data based on a link contained in the body. If you can show me a research paper or blog post or something where a process is described to sanitize the input data based on license, that would be pretty damn interesting. Maybe it’ll exist in the future?
Besides, the best way to opt-out of AI training is to enable site-wide flags, which mark the content therein as off limits. That would have the benefit of not only protecting you, but everyone else on the site. Lobbying your lemmy instance to enable that will get a lot more mileage than anything else you could do, because it’s an industry sanctioned way to accomplish what you want.
I’m quite familiar. It legally works, if you can prove that your data actually made it into the training set, you might be able to successfully sue them. That’s extremely unlikely though. If you can’t litigate a law, then it essentially doesn’t exist.
And what makes you think that can’t be done? You make it sound like because (you believe) it’s so hard to do you should have just not even bother trying, that seems really defeatist.
And like I said multiple times now, it’s a simple quick copy and paste, a ‘low-hanging fruit’ way of licensing/protecting a comment. If it works, great it works.
Besides, the best way to opt-out of AI training is to enable site-wide flags, which mark the content therein as off limits.
I have no control over the Lemmy servers, I only have control over my own comments that I post.
Also, the two options are not mutually exclusive.
because it’s an industry sanctioned way to accomplish what you want.
Again, both you and I know the history of the robots.txt file and how often and how well it’s honored, especially these days with the new frontier of AI modeling.
It would be best to do both, just to make sure you have coverage, so that if the robots.txt is not honored, at least the comment itself is still licensed.
Is there some Lemmy rule somewhere that I don’t know about that says I can’t attach a Creative Commons license to my comments?
It’s pretty much just a flag in the robots.txt
Because everyone knows that’s always honored and obeyed, right?
Also, it’s a proprietary flag created by Google and only used by Google (per the article you linked).
So if you want to actually make a difference, lobby your Lemmy instance to add this flag.
Or do both.
Because users are the final owners of their own content, their own comments. Not Lemmy, not anyone else. They have the first responsibility of protecting their rights.
So strange how some people get really bent out of shape seeing it.
If someone is going to use my content to build their AI model and train their bots, then I want compensation for it.
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I just think it’s silly that people think it actually works.
Besides, if AI really is powerful enough to make a splash in the world, wouldn’t you WANT it to contain your data? That would make it more favorable to your viewpoints.
I only want my data to be used to be used to generate dialog for gay furry porn.
Rom would be very disappointed with you.
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Idk, sounds like some new holosuite programs that can earn him and I some latinum. I’m the idea person, he’s the engineer. Big picture thinking!
We’ll get our own moon soon enough.
Yes! You’ve restored my faith in
FerengityHumanity! Thank you.(And no, you can’t have any of my latinum.)
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Are you a lawyer? Are you familiar with the Creative Commons license?
If not, please feel free to get back to us after you get your degree, and let us all know what the final word is on this.
Oh I would love that, if they paid me to use my content, under terms that I would agree for it to be used (betterment of Humankind, etc.).
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I’m quite familiar. It legally works, if you can prove that your data actually made it into the training set, you might be able to successfully sue them. That’s extremely unlikely though. If you can’t litigate a law, then it essentially doesn’t exist.
Besides, a researcher scraping websites isn’t going to take the time to filter out random pieces of data based on a link contained in the body. If you can show me a research paper or blog post or something where a process is described to sanitize the input data based on license, that would be pretty damn interesting. Maybe it’ll exist in the future?
Besides, the best way to opt-out of AI training is to enable site-wide flags, which mark the content therein as off limits. That would have the benefit of not only protecting you, but everyone else on the site. Lobbying your lemmy instance to enable that will get a lot more mileage than anything else you could do, because it’s an industry sanctioned way to accomplish what you want.
And what makes you think that can’t be done? You make it sound like because (you believe) it’s so hard to do you should have just not even bother trying, that seems really defeatist.
And like I said multiple times now, it’s a simple quick copy and paste, a ‘low-hanging fruit’ way of licensing/protecting a comment. If it works, great it works.
I have no control over the Lemmy servers, I only have control over my own comments that I post.
Also, the two options are not mutually exclusive.
Again, both you and I know the history of the robots.txt file and how often and how well it’s honored, especially these days with the new frontier of AI modeling.
It would be best to do both, just to make sure you have coverage, so that if the robots.txt is not honored, at least the comment itself is still licensed.
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It might seem silly to most but all it takes for something to become real is for the public to demand it. And if those in power won’t help, oust them.
At least this person demands something novel and positive for the user. What is fiction today can become reality tomorrow.
Seems harmless at worst and positive at best.
I mean the appropriate way to do that is to flag the site data as not approved for AI training, as shown here: https://www.pcmag.com/news/dont-want-google-to-use-your-website-for-ai-training-you-can-now-opt-out
It’s pretty much just a flag in the robots.txt and it has a whole lot more weight than linking CC in your post.
So if you want to actually make a difference, lobby your Lemmy instance to add this flag.
Oh neat I didn’t know about that.
Is there some Lemmy rule somewhere that I don’t know about that says I can’t attach a Creative Commons license to my comments?
Because everyone knows that’s always honored and obeyed, right?
Also, it’s a proprietary flag created by Google and only used by Google (per the article you linked).
Or do both.
Because users are the final owners of their own content, their own comments. Not Lemmy, not anyone else. They have the first responsibility of protecting their rights.
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Oof yeah that was not the correct word at all. It would have been better to say effective.
You’re always free to do what you want of course!
You sure about that? 😇
The vibe I’m getting from you is kind of the opposite, as you’re the third person to give me a major hassle about them just within the 24-hour period.
I honestly wasn’t expecting the level of Spanish Inquisition that I’ve gotten over using them, it’s really fascinating actually. /queueMontyPython
Anyway, I would love to stop talking about this and derailing what the thread was actually supposed to be about.
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Love your username! Is that a Deep Space Nine reference?
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