• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    In 2020 38% of the vote was from Dems, 38% from republicans…

    What wins/loses Michigan is independent voters, and Biden doesn’t do well with them, because they want more than “I’m not the other guy! Even tho we agree on lots of stuff, we’re still different”

    Hell. biden isn’t even doing well with Dem voters in an unopposed primary.

    That should make everyone very concerned, but there’s a vocal minority of Biden supporters who demand 100% loyalty and 0% questions.

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      9 months ago

      Bruv, I’m just making the rational choice in a binary system. The choice that leads to less bad shit happening to me and the rest of the world.

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        9 months ago

        Begrudgingly voting for Biden probably isn’t enough. It’s too close, and Biden doesn’t excite voters enough.

        You need to get others to do it too. And the fact is, that’s really hard to do if you’re trying to convince voters directly.

        What’s easier and has a chance of working is being outspoken now before the general has even started, and pray that someone on his campaign team realizes Biden is going to have to move left to beat trump.

        Or you could tell people to shut up and hope Bidens campaign team realizes on their own before it’s too late while getting zero feedback from voters.

        Pick inaction all you like, I just don’t like it’s chances.

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      9 months ago

      “I’m not the other guy” is actually a very strong case when you look at the other guy.
      The other guy wanted a “Muslim ban”.
      The other guy has a subdivision in Israel named after him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Heights

      Biden supports Israel due to long term alliances/treaties.
      Trump supports Israel because they’re killing undesirables.
      They are not the same.

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        9 months ago

        Biden supports Israel due to long term alliances/treaties.

        That’s not what Biden says…

        He said that when he was a small child and Israel was formed (Biden is literally older than Israel) his dad told him that Israel were the good guys, and had Biden promise to always support them.

        That is why Biden calls himself a Zionist and will always support Israel.

        A promise a toddler made to his farther almost a century ago.

        But hey, that’s just going off what Biden has been saying for decades, and unfortunately we can’t just believe what Biden says. He could be lying or just confused, it’s a coin flip.

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          9 months ago

          Let’s simplify the situation for you. Israel has been designated as a U.S. Major Non-NATO Ally under U.S. law. So Biden can say whatever he wants. He is compelled, by US law, to support them.

          But you’re right, we should all vote in Cheeto again who definitely would do better in the situation.

          I get it, they’re both shit choices. Spicy Cuttlefish or Vanilla Bean Paste situation.

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            9 months ago

            I don’t know what would be more ridiculous, that you’re right and once someone is a US ally we have to support anything they do, up to and including genocide…

            Or that you know you’re wrong and rationalizing that hard to defend a genocide.