• MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Software engineering.

    Back in my day(™), it was an engineering role, where science reigned. Anyone even attempting “vibe coding” would’ve been rightfully laughed out of the room.

    It’s a task that should take concerted effort, with specific goals and performance metrics in mind. Just getting the task done wasn’t and shouldn’t be good enough.

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      I think the issue is that back then, you only did important things with software. Now there is so much code doing the same simple things. Like how many ways does a person need to input thier birthday… and every tool we use… if it is good it gets more and more expensive, and more and more cluttered as they try to expand thier market. So now a new cheaper tool that does the same thing gets written. I would bet 90 some % of code is copies of other code with scientifically meaningless difference. But someone has to write it all…

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      Uh oh. The ice carvers are complaining about the evils of refrigeration again…

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        Uh oh, the bad faith AI bros are conflating luddites with anyone that disagrees with them again…

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            Because I’m not arguing, genius, because a group of people that categorically reject all dissent as an appeal to nature fallacy is a group not worth engaging.

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              3 days ago

              Sounds like a self-defeating argument. So glad I could stand by while you beat on that straw man for a while. Feeling better after that li’l display, champ?

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                  3 days ago

                  Sure, kiddo. Whatever gives you that dopamine hit for being yet-another random internet douchecanoe.

                  “Hurr hurr… I’m right and I’ve decided you’re wrong because reasons. I’m not going to engage with anyone because everyone rejects my assertions that I’m right and everyone else is wrong.”

                  Uh huh. Real nuanced perspective you got there.

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          No this is LITERALLY the same argument made hundreds/thousands of years ago against writing and books. Its the same argument the amish use. It IS the luddit pinnicle argument.

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            4 days ago

            That’s right, the anti AI people are making literally the same arguments about why writing is bad. I am so smart.

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        You do not understand what quality code is if you think the current or previous generations produce anything but shit when it’s not a 1-1 copy of someone’s project it digested.

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          You do not realize how many businesses operate every single day and make plenty of money on suboptimal code.

          Industrial scale everything does not care, so long as the job gets done and the invoice is paid.

          Just like with every other profession made obsolete by technology, the 80% case won’t need your bespoke, hand-crafted, artisanal assembly. There will still be minority cases who will pay a premium for it. And plenty of people will still program as a hobby or for their local community. But industrial scale software will be written by bots.

          Because the world runs on good enough. No matter how many elitist neckbeards get butthurt in the process.