We’re a “republic” with an “electoral” college. We were never a democracy.
Edit: I don’t want a direct democracy. I’m not a republican. I’d prefer communism. Fucking fascists.
The electoral college was designed to protect democracy in times when the people’s vote was easily swayed due to misinformation. Gerrymandering compromised that. Now we have an orange figurehead dismantling our agencies. Why are people disagreeing?
We’re a “republic” with an “electoral” college. We were never a democracy.
Nonsense. That’s the sort of disinformation I see the right trying to spread to defend fascism.
“Democracy” is simply a form of government where the rule or power (kratos) derives from the people (demos). A form where representatives are elected to make decisions is called “representative democracy.”
A “republic” is a form of government that isn’t a monarchy.
We have a representative democratic republic. Our system has its serious flaws, but that doesn’t make it not a democracy.
According to a Princeton study from like a decade ago no major public policy has reflected public opinion since the end of the civil rights era.
If we were a representative democracy then the will of the demos would be reflected in the government and its decisions. But it’s just not.
In practice the US has been an oligarchy for at least half a century. I suspect it always has been just with brief interludes when people power breaks through like the civil rights era and the new deal.
It has always been an oligarchy if you study the revolutionary war. The ruling class has thrown a few populist treats to the masses here and there to help maintain the illusion of democracy.
A political order whose head of state is not a monarch and in modern times is usually a president.
A nation that has such a political order.
A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
Xanthrax is using definition 3 while others are using 1. Should have been easy to resolve without vitriol. But maybe you “know what [he’s] doing” and are “just putting that out there”?
We are a republic and a democracy (the latter is questionable now). Just like many other nations in the world.
This is not a new piece of disinformation, it’s been around for a long fucking time. So yes, when I see people parroting these easily disproven lies (and then refuse to accept it when someone corrects them), I tend to question their motives.
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A true democracy isn’t even desirable, as it is quite literally mob rule
So, what you mean here, is that you want a small group of people to control everyone else…
And you don’t want them to get those positions of power because the majority of people agree with them…
So like, you know what kind of options that leaves to describe you politically right?
Because it’s 2025, and I can’t tell if you’re just unapologetic about it, or too ignorant to understand what you’re advocating for and meant to say something that wasn’t openly fascist instead of what you actually said.
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We’re a “republic” with an “electoral” college. We were never a democracy.
Edit: I don’t want a direct democracy. I’m not a republican. I’d prefer communism. Fucking fascists.
The electoral college was designed to protect democracy in times when the people’s vote was easily swayed due to misinformation. Gerrymandering compromised that. Now we have an orange figurehead dismantling our agencies. Why are people disagreeing?
Nonsense. That’s the sort of disinformation I see the right trying to spread to defend fascism.
“Democracy” is simply a form of government where the rule or power (kratos) derives from the people (demos). A form where representatives are elected to make decisions is called “representative democracy.”
A “republic” is a form of government that isn’t a monarchy.
We have a representative democratic republic. Our system has its serious flaws, but that doesn’t make it not a democracy.
We don’t have a representative democracy.
According to a Princeton study from like a decade ago no major public policy has reflected public opinion since the end of the civil rights era.
If we were a representative democracy then the will of the demos would be reflected in the government and its decisions. But it’s just not.
In practice the US has been an oligarchy for at least half a century. I suspect it always has been just with brief interludes when people power breaks through like the civil rights era and the new deal.
It has always been an oligarchy if you study the revolutionary war. The ruling class has thrown a few populist treats to the masses here and there to help maintain the illusion of democracy.
A republic is like a direct democracy, but instead, you elect officials to represent you. Wtf is this thread?
If you are not 100% in lockstep with the narrative you will be attacked here and accused of being an agent of the enemy.
What’s the “narrative” here, basic understanding of political science?
Xanthrax is using definition 3 while others are using 1. Should have been easy to resolve without vitriol. But maybe you “know what [he’s] doing” and are “just putting that out there”?
We are a republic and a democracy (the latter is questionable now). Just like many other nations in the world.
This is not a new piece of disinformation, it’s been around for a long fucking time. So yes, when I see people parroting these easily disproven lies (and then refuse to accept it when someone corrects them), I tend to question their motives.
There’s zero vitriol in this comment chain. What are you talking about?
That’s their definitions. You’re making us look bad. I don’t care about republican talking points. You do.
A true democracy isn’t even desirable, as it is quite literally mob rule.
Perhaps you should purchase a dictionary.
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Ok:
So, what you mean here, is that you want a small group of people to control everyone else…
And you don’t want them to get those positions of power because the majority of people agree with them…
So like, you know what kind of options that leaves to describe you politically right?
Because it’s 2025, and I can’t tell if you’re just unapologetic about it, or too ignorant to understand what you’re advocating for and meant to say something that wasn’t openly fascist instead of what you actually said.
I don’t want a direct democracy and I’m NOT a republican.
Ughh…
Didn’t expect this old chestnut to show up on lemmy. Usually people here are better informed.
“Democracy” and “republic” are not mutually exclusive. The US is (well was) both.
Australia is a constitutional monarchy but we’re still a democracy.