My 2014 Kia Rio has crank windows, no cruise control, 6-spd manual trans. No touchscreens–only buttons.
Car is very slow (1.6L non-turbo) but gets ~36mpg average. I’ve gotten as much as 40 when actually driving for mpg.
I think they were doing the Nissan Versa like that for a while too. But it’s definitely not common and should be for cars that aren’t economy-boxes. And just to lay my shit out, I guess, my progression was: 1991 Plymouth Acclaim, 1990 Chevy Caprice Classic (loved that car), 2000 Chevy Monte Carlo (it blew up!), 2007 Hyundai Tucson, 2012 Hyundai Tucson.
I AM in the market for a new car…eventually. Have replace the engine on this one already and know it’s on its last legs. But I don’t see anything out there that I actually like. I kinda liked the Challenger, I guess…but I honestly am thinking about going back to cars from the 90s/80s again. I legit miss my Caprice.
My 2016 versa is crank windows, no power locks, no cruise control, 5-speed manual transmission, no touch screen/complicated electronics in the dash. It’s been really nice minus I do miss cruise control.
Fuck dude, I drove 94 Acclaim across the country, and it was a pos then, but I miss that car. My current is a 05 Sierra, barebones, not even a radio anymore, I really like that it doesn’t have much to break, and it’s decently cheap to fix still
A friend of mine had a Caprice Classic. Such a good car. It was soft and smooth and the economical 305 V8 made good torque while still getting good mpg!
It was a boat on wheels. But mine only got 7MPG. And that “twilight sentinel” nonsense never worked right. It did have some decent pickup for its size though.
20mpg doesn’t really sound that far fetched for a 305 if you’re mostly doing highway. Mine was a '78 and got around 14 in the city when just commuting. That thing could drink a lot more with a heavier foot though, lol
A V8 has a lot of low RPM torque so if you drive with a light foot it can do very well. Most of the energy from an engine is used moving the car, not engine losses. A smaller engine is always going to do better at the same load, but the difference isn’t going to be large if everything else is equal (which it often isn’t)
For a 350 to get 7mpg it would have to be a race built engine or simply run like garbage. I don’t even know how you could get a 305 to get that poor mileage but 🤷♂️
Yes, slow by modern (and my) standards but compared to older cars it’s quite good.
And while peak power is low it makes decent torque in the midrange and is tuned well for daily driving.
My 2014 Kia Rio has crank windows, no cruise control, 6-spd manual trans. No touchscreens–only buttons.
Car is very slow (1.6L non-turbo) but gets ~36mpg average. I’ve gotten as much as 40 when actually driving for mpg.
I think they were doing the Nissan Versa like that for a while too. But it’s definitely not common and should be for cars that aren’t economy-boxes. And just to lay my shit out, I guess, my progression was: 1991 Plymouth Acclaim, 1990 Chevy Caprice Classic (loved that car), 2000 Chevy Monte Carlo (it blew up!), 2007 Hyundai Tucson, 2012 Hyundai Tucson.
I AM in the market for a new car…eventually. Have replace the engine on this one already and know it’s on its last legs. But I don’t see anything out there that I actually like. I kinda liked the Challenger, I guess…but I honestly am thinking about going back to cars from the 90s/80s again. I legit miss my Caprice.
My 2016 versa is crank windows, no power locks, no cruise control, 5-speed manual transmission, no touch screen/complicated electronics in the dash. It’s been really nice minus I do miss cruise control.
Fuck dude, I drove 94 Acclaim across the country, and it was a pos then, but I miss that car. My current is a 05 Sierra, barebones, not even a radio anymore, I really like that it doesn’t have much to break, and it’s decently cheap to fix still
A friend of mine had a Caprice Classic. Such a good car. It was soft and smooth and the economical 305 V8 made good torque while still getting good mpg!
It was a boat on wheels. But mine only got 7MPG. And that “twilight sentinel” nonsense never worked right. It did have some decent pickup for its size though.
Oh wow. The one my friend had got almost 20. He gave me a hard time because it got better mileage than my Jeep XJ of the time.
…he was lying to you?
20mpg doesn’t really sound that far fetched for a 305 if you’re mostly doing highway. Mine was a '78 and got around 14 in the city when just commuting. That thing could drink a lot more with a heavier foot though, lol
Maybe yours was a 350?
A V8 has a lot of low RPM torque so if you drive with a light foot it can do very well. Most of the energy from an engine is used moving the car, not engine losses. A smaller engine is always going to do better at the same load, but the difference isn’t going to be large if everything else is equal (which it often isn’t)
For a 350 to get 7mpg it would have to be a race built engine or simply run like garbage. I don’t even know how you could get a 305 to get that poor mileage but 🤷♂️
I think you probably could get a 350 down to 7mpg but you’d be driving like an absolute maniac to get it there. I dunno, 7 seems pretty bad
A 1.6 in a car that light isn’t all that slow. That’s what, nine seconds? Not a race car, but cars used to be so much slower.
Yes, slow by modern (and my) standards but compared to older cars it’s quite good.
And while peak power is low it makes decent torque in the midrange and is tuned well for daily driving.