“he’d already aroused suspicion by interrupting a meandering discussion of principles with a straightforward plan of action.”
I feel seen.
these people already all fucking hate each other. They spend all their time arguing about minutiae
Oh shit, The Onion has clearly infiltrated a few leftist groups in their time. That’s fucking hilarious.
Gods trying to get my friends to think about pushing politicians leftward on the scale of 4/6/8 years pissed them off. They will only focus efforts on yelling at Biden to drop out as if it will happen or help. They don’t care that no world exists where they are remotely happy in nov 2024, that’s the only thing they can think about
This is where the old adage “Don’t let perfect stand in the way of progress” applies.
Biden may not even be considered progress by some, but at least he’s not a rapid sprint backwards into fascism.
Part of the problem the left currently faces, regardless of revolutionary thought in general, is that environmental concerns are past the election cycle.
It is already too late to stop global warming at the 1.5 C target suggested in 2018.
Gradual reform will be too late. There is no way around it, we are acting too slow, and even if every country in the world flipped Green or whatever in 2028 that might still be too late.
“Too late” is the exact language the fossil fuel execs want you to use. Even if specific targets are passed, every fraction of a degree matters. Stopping warming at 2 is better than 2.1 so if electing Biden puts us on the 2°c track thats better, and maybe the 2028 candidate can put us on the 1.8°C track. Thats a difference worth fighting for
To be fair, the journey of a thousand miles does - or at least should - not begin with a single step, but rather with figuring out which direction to go in.
We all know the direction is left! No, no my left, not your left.
Left-wing groups: disorganized
Right-wing groups: incredibly bad at opsec
Yet it still ends up as:
Left-wing groups: Beaten and arrested by police for peacefully protesting.
Right-wing groups: Attempt to overthrow democracy, get off scot-free.
get off scot-free
Given how they are being systematically hunted down and sentenced to long prison sentences one after the other and from the bottom up, I don’t think this is accurate.
A few years for treason is not long.
No one has been charged for treason because guess what, it doesnt count as treason.
Commission data show that the D.C. court’s sentences for Jan. 6 defendants who assaulted police is below the national average.
Since Jan. 6 cases began, the average sentence imposed by D.C. federal judges in the Capitol attack under guidelines for serious assaults climbed to 46 months from 41 months but is still below the nationwide average of 51 months in 2022.
Even directly assaulting cops got these fuckers below average sentences, let alone the literal act of trying to overthrow democracy.
Not to defend these guys, but be careful when using statistical averages and drawing conclusions from them when you dont have the other contextual data.
Like for example sentencing guidelines give leniency to first time offenders, so If the sample of Jan 6 traitors has more first time offenders than the nationwide average, then we would expect them to have a shorter average sentences. I cant read the article you posted so I dont know if this is considered at all.
That’s a valid point and one I hadn’t considered. I’ll certainly keep that in mind for future, as I do like statistical data.
Although I do find it reasonable in this instance to debunk the claim they received long prison sentences, as a handful of years is pretty short considering the severity of their attempted action.
Buildings burn and people die when overthrow is attempted. Therefore that’s exaggeration.
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Your dictionary sucks lol
Look at those downvotes.
What did I say that was so bad?
What do you think is going on here?
You stated that “overthrow” is an exaggeration because buildings didn’t burn or whatever. That’s not the definition of overthrow.
The fact is, people tried to overturn the US Presidential Election by extralegal means including force, with the intent of putting in place an illegitimate leader. That meets the definition of overthrow and insurrection.
Of course, if you are operating on right wing propaganda instead of facts, you won’t agree.
And if your epistemology is clouded with superstitious thinking and unchecked cognitive biases, you won’t ever be able to see through the bullshit.
That seems rather simplistic and idealistic. Like a cartoon.
People did die…
Oh shit this is the onion.
doing something violent to the communal spaces in their community
That seems counterproductive, let’s do something violent to the fash spaces in our community.
