• Formfiller@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    MAGATS uphold rape culture but this dude is a hero and I for one would vote for him to be president and drain the swamp in 2028.

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      Not to defend pedos, but prison violence is not a good thing, even if in some cases it ends up affecting the “right” people.

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        If only the justice system properly punished pedos. But they don’t.

        So until then. …

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          The pedos he’s killing are being punished by the justice system though.

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            Not really. The sentences are weak for the crimes.

            You can rape and kill a child and only get 20 years. And serve half and get out.

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              Horse is a really big advocate for pedofiles. We live in a rape culture from the top down and the people who defend that like horse are a BIG part of the problem.

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              Maybe the people who came up with the whole idea of jails overestimated how awful we would consider having to live in a cell about 20 hours a day for 20 years.

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              What would be a just sentence though? If we’re going for “an eye for an eye”, you’ll quickly find that you run out of punishments for the most heinous crimes. And even if you can keep coming up with ways to punish people, it stops seeming like a good idea real fast when you accidentally end up punishing the wrong person.

              It’s easy to say “this person deserves more” when you’re talking about an individual case, but when you’re trying to build a system that balances punishment, justice, rehabilitation, deterrence and protecting the public you’re never going to come up with a perfect solution that feels fair all of the time. But the alternative is making arbitrary decisions on a case by case basis, influenced by bias and personal feelings.

              That’s not so say the justice system, especially in the US, doesn’t have big problems. But I don’t think the solution is to double down on harsher punishment.

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                Most sex offenders reoffend. So they either need locked up forever or be required to take drugs to reduce libido or something.

                The U.S doesn’t invest in rehabilitation of criminals.

                And our culture promotes sex crimes.

                So at present. We have limited options to protect children and others who are targeted.

                • Most sex offenders reoffend. So they either need locked up forever or be required to take drugs to reduce libido or something.

                  I was interested and looked it up, but turns out this doesn’t really ring true. In fact, only a minority of sex offenders actually reoffend, and when they do it’s most likely for a different, nonsexual crime rather than a sexual one.

                  There’s a lot of interesting summarizing being done here: https://smart.ojp.gov/somapi/chapter-5-adult-sex-offender-recidivism

                  It’s hard to get exact numbers though, as sex crimes remain underreported. It does seem however that psychological treatment for these offenders actually helps reduce recidivism rates.

                  It gets different when you get to repeat offenders; they are much more likely to keep offending after release.

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                    Well it’s not majority but it’s high and it is related to the age of the offender. With those at younger ages re offending at almost 40 percent.

                    That’s an insanely high risk to the public.

                    -The highest rates of sexual recidivism were observed for individuals under 34 years at release from incarceration, for whom recidivism steadily increased over time before peaking at 42% at 25 years. The mean age at reoffense was 42.51. Age was significantly associated with sexual recidivism at 5 years, but not at subsequent follow-up periods. These findings suggest that long-term patterns of sexual recidivism may be related to age at release.

                    https://pifa.blog/#google_vignette

                    I will say that numbers on this topic do vary grately in research papers depending on how long they follow up and who the sample was. And how they divide people up.

                    This paper I reference followed people for 25 years. It divided people up by age. And measured time from release to re offence of another sex crime.