The US primaries and the general election are two different things. Voting uncommitted in the primary expresses support for the Palestinian plight and does not give Republicans any ground.

The uncommitted movement presents a safe and effective avenue for voters to voice dissatisfaction with President Biden’s policies, particularly with the Israel-Hamas conflict. By doing so in the primary, voters can signal discontent without risking a Republican victory in the general election. The purpose is to send a wake-up call to the Biden administration that it is failing to address issues and effectively engage with the party, vis a vis that Biden is enabling a genocide.

That being said, anyone who calls for an uncommitted or third-party vote in the general election i will personally kick in the gender neutral balls (in Minecraft).

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    even if that’s true

    it is :) proof

    your meme doesn’t represent it [right]

    certainly true. my meme is intentionally simplifying the situation. i won’t contest that. memes are bad for nuance anyway. the real nuance is in the paragraph i posted directly below the meme.

    The uncommitted movement presents a safe and effective avenue for voters to voice dissatisfaction with President Biden’s policies, particularly with the Israel-Hamas conflict. By doing so in the primary, voters can signal discontent without risking a Republican victory in the general election. The purpose is to send a wake-up call to the Biden administration that it is failing to address issues and effectively engage with the party, vis a vis that Biden is enabling a genocide.

    i hope that’s enough and i welcome any criticism or feedback on that text.

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      But again, people aren’t talking about the primary, at best they misunderstood people as talking about the general in one thread (which I really just don’t believe at face-value based on the misrepresentation here)

      Your text doesn’t elaborate on that at all, and your meme totally misreprents the whole argument.

      Sure it’s a meme, but it’s pretty deliberately dishonest.

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        if you refuse to believe me, we are at an impasse lol. i get being skeptical but it’s not my problem (edit: proof).

        and yeah you are totally free to make your own meme to better express the situation. i’m doing my personal best but i hope you can and do one-up me and make something more enlightening :)

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          Again, it doesn’t matter if I believe you or not, because even if it’s true, you’re out here deliberately misrepresenting the discussion.

          If it’s not, then that only makes it that much worse.

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            ok im going to assume good faith and take you seriously! i want the best for everyone here

            how can i alter the meme and/or to make it better represent the discussion?

            cuz i’ll do it. im just one person and its very possible the words i chose are not the best possible.

            (edit: also please stop implying that i am lying, please and thank you. there are dozens of other users who can confirm that the deleted post was about the primaries, ask any one of them.)

            edit2: proof im not lying lmao. if yall ever catch me lying i’ll delete my account.

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              You’re asserting that a handful of people misunderstanding a meme in a now deleted thread constitutes a hoard of people claiming that if you say the US president should stop adding the genocide, then you’re a fascist or astroturfer.

              There’s nothing to adjust there, it’s simply a complete and utter fabrication.

              (edit: also please stop implying that i am lying, please and thank you. there are dozens of other users who can confirm that the deleted post was about the primaries, ask any one of them.)

              Why would I take someone who would post such a fabrication at their word? I never said you were lying, you could just as easily be misunderstanding those comments.

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                sigh okay i tried.

                i claimed nothing about misunderstanding a meme, but about misunderstanding the primary system. look at my post history. all my recent posts concern correcting misunderstanding the system, not the meme (edit: and people are still misunderstanding the primary system even in this post, which clearly lays it out. an impossible task.)

                i want to make my messaging the best possible and i admitted i am open to improving alterations. you had the chance to alter the text of this post but it’s apparent to me that wasn’t valuable to you more than just arguing so that offer is rescinded. (anyone else reading this with improvement ideas let me know!)

                i will be blocking you because you don’t seem like a very nice person. sorry.

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                  i claimed nothing about misunderstanding a meme, but about misunderstanding the primary system. look at my post history. all my recent posts concern correcting misunderstanding the system, not the meme.

                  The links to the comments you’re using as evidence are all clearly misunderstanding thinking that someone was talking about the general, when they were actually talking about the primary (if your read of them is even correct). So yeah, you are talking about that.

                  i want to make my messaging the best possible and i admitted i am open to improving alterations. you had the chance to alter the text of this post but it’s apparent to me that wasn’t valuable to you more than just arguing so that offer is rescinded. (anyone else reading this with improvement ideas let me know!)

                  Again, you’re asking me to alter text on a flat out lie. My alteration would be to throw it out and stop lying.

                  i will be blocking you because you don’t seem like a very nice person. sorry.

                  I guess keep spreading falsehoods and blocking those who call you out on it. What a fun way to deliberately stir up in-fighting!

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                    Really fucked up how liberals just act like they’re all prefect and cool and epic and literally deny clear evidence right before their eyes that their compatriots have no idea how primaries work (: that was a depressing read, I hope you stop trying so hard to alienate potential dem voters