40,000 deaths per year is worse than needing to give up some privacy for access to public roads. 99% of people are fine with giving up more privacy for a hell of a lot less. In the abstract it sucks but in a society that has given up on the concept of privacy at least it’s being applied for something other than targeted advertising.
People that really give a shit can continue to use old cars or other means of transportation.
Until we actually know what the implementation looks like you’re just talking out of your ass and have no right to be condescending.
The entire story is that the NHTSA is obligated to make rules for the implementation of impairment detection. It absolutely does not follow that ‘obviously it won’t detect impairment’
my wild take of ‘maybe get mad at stuff that is actually real instead of reading a clickbait headline that is already detached from reality and then going even further making up even more stuff that isnt real to scare yourself with’
You see the issue is that you are doing the very thing that you think everyone else is doing here. This is a real issue around tech we own spying on us and the slide into a very bad place. Your the one making up a scenario in your head about tech making anything safer (car injuries and crashes per capita have not in fact gone down with new tech past the collapsing steering column), and then thinking that since 40,000 people die in vehicle crashes justifies anything. Here’s is a fun little stat: 12,000 us people die each year on stairs does that then mean we should make stairs have infotainment systems that block stairs if it thinks you are drunk or sleepy? I mean its all worth it right, even if all the data collected on those stairs is used to fuck the users of those stairs.
For a better look here is an example:
In 2008 12.32/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us
In 2022 12.76/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us
So that tech that spies on you did nothing?
In 2008 5,811,000 reported crashes happened
In 2022 5,930,496 reported crashes happened
Looks like it did not do that much, but boooooooy howdy did the amount of crap in our cars increased from 2008 to 2022.
Yeah, it’s something dystopian.
40,000 deaths per year is worse than needing to give up some privacy for access to public roads. 99% of people are fine with giving up more privacy for a hell of a lot less. In the abstract it sucks but in a society that has given up on the concept of privacy at least it’s being applied for something other than targeted advertising.
People that really give a shit can continue to use old cars or other means of transportation.
You can’t honestly believe that mass surveillance will help prevent those deaths, right?
It won’t. It’ll be used punitively.
Until we actually know what the implementation looks like you’re just talking out of your ass and have no right to be condescending.
The entire story is that the NHTSA is obligated to make rules for the implementation of impairment detection. It absolutely does not follow that ‘obviously it won’t detect impairment’
Can you describe an example of detailed mass surveillance that has not been used against us?
Can you explain how this tech that doesn’t exist will be used against you?
This regulation, which doesn’t exist but was due to be implemented, is not meaningfully different than requiring a passive breathalyzer interlock.
If the cameras and tracking systems inside cars don’t stop them, why will this one?
By preventing engine startup or with a very low speed limiter presumably.
And how do they know you’re drunk? Cameras? Mandatory blood samples?
That’s the thing from the article they linked to. NHTSA says the tech does not exist yet, hence why they are asking for an extension.
Demanding the specifics of what can be broadly understood is a waste of time.
Yeah man fuck reality you’ve got the world in your head where you can make stuff up to get mad at
Ah yes, everyone else must live in a different reality that does not hold your wild takes.
my wild take of ‘maybe get mad at stuff that is actually real instead of reading a clickbait headline that is already detached from reality and then going even further making up even more stuff that isnt real to scare yourself with’
You see the issue is that you are doing the very thing that you think everyone else is doing here. This is a real issue around tech we own spying on us and the slide into a very bad place. Your the one making up a scenario in your head about tech making anything safer (car injuries and crashes per capita have not in fact gone down with new tech past the collapsing steering column), and then thinking that since 40,000 people die in vehicle crashes justifies anything. Here’s is a fun little stat: 12,000 us people die each year on stairs does that then mean we should make stairs have infotainment systems that block stairs if it thinks you are drunk or sleepy? I mean its all worth it right, even if all the data collected on those stairs is used to fuck the users of those stairs.
For a better look here is an example:
In 2008 12.32/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us
In 2022 12.76/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us
So that tech that spies on you did nothing?
In 2008 5,811,000 reported crashes happened
In 2022 5,930,496 reported crashes happened
Looks like it did not do that much, but boooooooy howdy did the amount of crap in our cars increased from 2008 to 2022.