There seem to be some people on Lemmy who genuinely believe that they are an animal. They say they are an “unperson” or discuss conversing with “animals” who “happen to be born in human bodies”. They see their struggle as on par with the struggle for trans people, and their right to be recognized as animals as a part of a broader societal struggle for queer acceptance.
Well, this is fucking stupid.
First of all, comparing “I’m a puppy uWu” to gender dysphoria trivializes what trans people go through. Furries are not struggling like trans people. They are simply mocking trans people (whether that mockery is intentional or not is besides the point).
Second of all, you’re not a fucking animal bro ffs. Being an animal isn’t a state of mind. It isn’t a vibe. It isn’t a social construct. It isn’t something you’re assigned at birth. It’s about DNA. You have 50% of DNA from a human mom, and 50% of your DNA from a human dad, so you have 100% human DNA (granted maybe you have like 0.1% Neanderthal DNA but whatever). So you’re a human. This shouldn’t be a hard concept to grasp.
If you can speak a human language, and have the mental wherewithal required to use the internet, then you have a HUMAN MIND. And if you “just so happen to be born in a human body” then you have a HUMAN BODY. HUMAN MIND + HUMAN BODY = HUMAN. IT’S ALL HUMAN. YOU ARE HUMAN. Just because you have a bestiality fetish does not make you a fucking bobcat ffs
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“There seem to be some people on Lemmy who genuinely believe that they are an animal.”
Well, taxonomically speaking…
You have GOT to worry less about people pretending and hurting no one when there is actual shit happening in the world.
So, I’m just throwin’ it out because I dont feel it’s shown in the post a whole lot. Most furries are not like that. I’m pretty deep in the fandom, the ‘head’ of several communities, and hangout in it all the time. Throughout all that, I can count on one hand, the number of individuals I directly interacted with who associated with those thoughts.
I ain’t gonna go in depth on the whole therian part, moreso just that furries as a whole aren’t individuals who see themselves as animals.
It seems more like you’re describing a specific subset of furry called a therian.
But also: Where have you even encountered therians on Lemmy? Even the therian communities here are pretty dead.
They went extinct?
Where have you even encountered therians on Lemmy?
In this very comment section, for example
I do not see a single therian in the comments actually
There is at least one. If you read enough comments you’ll find them eventually. I think it would probably be inappropriate to single them out specifically though so I won’t do that
it’s dumb but what can we do? furries control 99% of all digital infrastructure, mess with them at your peril
Really appreciate op making the sacrifice so that everyone can Unite and explain so much about the furry culture and its sub cultures. I legit didn’t know some of these details. Very educational and fascinating.
It’s weird, but not something I really care about or would judge someone on, tbh.
It’s weird. If people were just being weird by themselves, that would barely worth any comment. But when people co-opt the language of social justice to justify their weirdness, and accuse you of being a bad person for not going along with it, then things have gone too far
Humans do, in fact, belong to the animal kingdom. We are all animals here. Not plants or fungi, but animals.
“We’re all wild animals, brother.” --Jake the dog
It’s endlessly both amusing and psychologically fascinating how you’re seemingly getting progressively more and more angry while just sharing your opinion before anyone has even had time to engage with you. It’s an objective fact that strong emotions cloud people’s judgment, so I can only wonder what it is that’s actually making you feel so emotional about it.
Clearly you’re not just a passive, distant observer to this but you’re somehow emotionally invested in it as well. It’s not really that I necessarily even entirely disagree with what I believe you’re saying - it’s just the way you’re saying it that makes me a bit suspicious about what’s really going on in the back of your head, whether it’s conscious or not.
It’s a cliché, but I feel like more often than not this kind of strong reaction to something that in no way affects your own life probably tells more about yourself than it does about other people or about what’s true in the world. I’m not sure whether you’re trying to convince us or yourself.
Edit: Okay, I read your other responses and I see what’s going on here. Bye.
If you’re trying to say they’re a troll, this meme template implies the opposite
Why do people find it so hard to believe that someone could take issue with trans-speciesism? Have you guys ever talked to someone irl before? Judging by the downvotes this is an unpopular opinion here, but 99.99% of the human population would agree with me about this
It hasn’t been studied enough to be able to conclude species dysphoria is bullshit. The human brain is fucking gnarly, tho. Ignoring the possibility is more insane than assuming a human might have a mental disorder that gives them a sense of dysphoria not having fur and a tail.
The engagement bait works wonderfully
This is called “pursuit of happiness”.
They are doing and saying things that make them happy. Things that have zero practical effect on you, dear OP.
When you see people enjoying things that confuse you, yet cause no harm to you or to anyone, the only acceptable course of action is for you to walk away.
Feel free to roll your eyes, but make sure you bite your tongue as you depart.
It could also be called “fursuit of happiness” :P
If someone is delusional, affirming that delusion is actively harmful. That is why ChatGPT leads to mental breakdowns. What do you want me to do? Say “you’re absolutely right, you actually are a zebra fish”? Because I won’t. Saying stuff like that is actively harmful. And I won’t tolerate being called a bigot because I refuse to go along with an adult’s game of make believe
If someone is delusional, affirming that delusion is actively harmful.
They aren’t delusional. You said so yourself:
And I won’t tolerate being called a bigot because I refuse to go along with an adult’s game of make believe
You know they aren’t delusional. You know this is a game. You know they are playing. They are LARPing.
What you are doing is roughly comparable to seeing a group of people playing a board game in a public park and deciding that you should sweep the board off the table. There’s plenty of other tables available for you; they aren’t doing a fucking thing to cause you any sort of harm. You could just mind your own fucking business and walk past them. You’re free to silently judge them as you do so. But no, you’re hell bent on interfering with other people just because you don’t like the way they choose to enjoy themselves.
What the hell is wrong with you?
What do you want me to do?
I feel like I was pretty fucking clear on that point:
Feel free to roll your eyes, but make sure you bite your tongue as you depart.
They aren’t doing anything to you. They are enjoying themselves. You’re trying to interfere with their enjoyment. You’re interfering with their pursuit of happiness with no justification.
And I won’t tolerate being called a bigot
You’re pretending like you have some sort of agency in the decision. You don’t! As soon as you opened your mouth and started spouting bigotry, you didn’t just tolerate it: You invited the designation.
If you don’t want to be called a bigot, you don’t actually have to change any of your bigoted opinions. If you don’t want to be called a bigot, you do have to keep your bigotry to yourself.
Imagine not giving a fuck about what other people think or do as long as it doesn’t hurt others…
Hard, I know, but it’s how normal people should behave: what the hell does it change to you in your daily routine if someone likes to dress with a furry suit? Is there a furry near your house that keeps you from having breakfast every day? Or that keeps you closed in your house? Or that hits you when they see you?
Has a furry kidnapped your children? Has a furry stolen your job?
Every time I see someone minding other people’s lives, I instantly believe they are worried that somehow they’ll become that themselves. Are you furrychondriac?
I applaud your appeal to rationality.
But most human believe in God. Rationality is beyond our grasp. We’re fucked.
its as legitamate as anything else and like anything it has a wide variation in how the people in the subculture view things. Im fine with people doing their thing as long as it does not hurt anyone else and they should not face discrimination but also not get exess. I don’t see why someone who gets leopord spots put all over their body and surgically made fangs and claws with some hair weave is not going to feel as every bit the animal they want to be as a man surgically being made to emulate female parts or vice versa. Its for them to be who they are and likely share in their community. Do I think they are what they think they are. no. but why does that matter. In other words live and let live.
I see where you are coming from, here’s a little tip.
- Install this extension
- On your Lemmy instance’s front page, press “Create new style”
- Add
picture:has(.img-icon) {display: none;}, save
Whoah, suddenly furries don’t exist anymore on the internet! That’s insane. And if you see contentless garbage, regardless if it’s a stupid reaction image, ragebait or (relevant here) meowing, just use the little “-” button that hides the post/reply.
