You are literally the example that younger folks are disillusioned with. Retired with benefits and decent pay for grinding is not something that happens anymore. Saying “well it worked for me so you must not be trying hard enough” is a false assumption and also condensending.
Put yourself in someone else’s shoes. Imagine you worked your ass off and grinded and learned and were never rewarded for that effort. That is by far most genx/mil/genz expirence in the US, and why we are angry.
Grinding and getting a raise for working hard in a corperate structure is a dream that only happened to old folks.
This is what’s insane to me about their commentary - they purport to be genx, same as me. Now I’m late gen x - born in the 70’s, the ones they tend to call liminals, and my entire professional working life has in no way shape or form resembled what tabooki2 is describing. This system has gone to shit within their own generation, they witnessed it in real time and yet they’re still sanctimoniously trying to blame poor work ethics. Madness.
Privilege… Lol. My wife and I worked fucking hard. Always had multiple jobs, saved and saved. Worked all the overtime. Lost half of everything in the 90s. Recovered and lost a third again in 08. Definately not privileged.
…if thats true why are you being a dick to people doing the same thing, who are now not getting paid OT (oh sorry youre a gig worker and you have to hit 40 hrs a week and sorry you somehow worked 39 hrs in one day and maybe someday we will make you part-time with no benefits) and not getting raises (what was your staring salary again?) and have to deal with with the fucked housing market.
Please dont try defend the housing market.
Dude pick a lane. It okay to admit that the world is worse. We want to try and make it better. Thats like the whole point of being human. Making it slightly better for everyone than it was before. Why is that bad?
Or are you shill bot for billionaires?
And yea you sound sound suuuuper privileged to me. Like look up privilege on Wikipedia and its your goddamned face looking back on the first image privileged.
Glad you retired. Good luck and gave fun. Please dont vote in US elections. You won! Congrats! You dont have to weigh in on future matters! You can coast forever and never worry!
I never said it wasn’t worse. My initial complaint was the quality of workers showing up in the workforce now that don’t want to work. My experience isn’t with the bottom rung.
For sure the bottom rung is getting screwed which is why they need strong unions again. Look at the rest of the world. Raises should always be increasing above inflation and if not then it’s time to organize.
I mean you could never survive on minimum wage but it’s much worse now.
You are literally the example that younger folks are disillusioned with. Retired with benefits and decent pay for grinding is not something that happens anymore. Saying “well it worked for me so you must not be trying hard enough” is a false assumption and also condensending.
Put yourself in someone else’s shoes. Imagine you worked your ass off and grinded and learned and were never rewarded for that effort. That is by far most genx/mil/genz expirence in the US, and why we are angry.
Grinding and getting a raise for working hard in a corperate structure is a dream that only happened to old folks.
This is what’s insane to me about their commentary - they purport to be genx, same as me. Now I’m late gen x - born in the 70’s, the ones they tend to call liminals, and my entire professional working life has in no way shape or form resembled what tabooki2 is describing. This system has gone to shit within their own generation, they witnessed it in real time and yet they’re still sanctimoniously trying to blame poor work ethics. Madness.
Good for them, they are some of the last to have it so easy.
I just wish these folks who live in the past would stop preaching their expirence as if its somehow relevant or good advice.
Look around you in that corporate structure. See any people your age? Ask yourself what they are doing right.
I dont work in a place like that anymore for all the reasons in this thread…
My example of old folks getting preferred treatment, special pay, and less hours instead of the people actually doing the work is why I left.
Enjoy your retirement, glad it worked out for you, but please stop assuming everyone in the workforce enjoys the same privileges you describe.
Privilege… Lol. My wife and I worked fucking hard. Always had multiple jobs, saved and saved. Worked all the overtime. Lost half of everything in the 90s. Recovered and lost a third again in 08. Definately not privileged.
…if thats true why are you being a dick to people doing the same thing, who are now not getting paid OT (oh sorry youre a gig worker and you have to hit 40 hrs a week and sorry you somehow worked 39 hrs in one day and maybe someday we will make you part-time with no benefits) and not getting raises (what was your staring salary again?) and have to deal with with the fucked housing market.
Please dont try defend the housing market.
Dude pick a lane. It okay to admit that the world is worse. We want to try and make it better. Thats like the whole point of being human. Making it slightly better for everyone than it was before. Why is that bad?
Or are you shill bot for billionaires?
And yea you sound sound suuuuper privileged to me. Like look up privilege on Wikipedia and its your goddamned face looking back on the first image privileged.
Glad you retired. Good luck and gave fun. Please dont vote in US elections. You won! Congrats! You dont have to weigh in on future matters! You can coast forever and never worry!
I never said it wasn’t worse. My initial complaint was the quality of workers showing up in the workforce now that don’t want to work. My experience isn’t with the bottom rung.
For sure the bottom rung is getting screwed which is why they need strong unions again. Look at the rest of the world. Raises should always be increasing above inflation and if not then it’s time to organize.
I mean you could never survive on minimum wage but it’s much worse now.