I have a soft spot for dubbed anime and always have, but in pretty much every case, the subtitles are not a transcript of the dub, they’re a translation of the original Japanese.
As a result, the feeling you get trying to watch that is not unlike going up a set of stairs and miscounting, but for every sentence.
It’s also torture if the subtitles don’t (reasonably) match for non-dubbed content.
This bothers me more with captioning for English language movies in English. They abbreviate a lot to make it easier to quickly read what is being said. Sometimes that makes perfect sense and is very useful. A lot of the time, they’re just cutting out details for no good reason.
It’s also very annoying for non-native speakers who want to listen to the original audio and have the subtitles as help when they don’t understand something:
what was that one word I didn’t get?
subtitles: completely different sentence (with the same meaning, OK, but different words)
AI generated subtitles are utter garbage. Combine that with idiots who can’t be bothered to check their 60 second long video for mistakes and you basically end up with subtitles that have no reason of being there in the first place
I used to do work on Amazon Mechanical Turk for extra cash. A LOT of subtitles jobs were there. They paid really high but you had to be insanely good at it. There was an acceptable percentage of errors that was not zero. Sometimes you just couldn’t figure out what was said in the video, I made stuff up but in context. I never really thought about it but we were the AI back then. Fun story, I got laid off, was late on payments on an Amazon card for a while before I paid it off. Blacklisted for life.
I feel your pain. I been learning German and got a bunch of DVDs and Blurayd digitalised. 99% of the time subs do not say exactly as it was dubbed. It counts as paraphrasing but different enough to begin to hate it.
The most fucking fun part is when you watch a local language movie (e.g. Das Boot) and subs also do not match. How? Baffles me.
I prefer just listening to it in Japanese, but even knowing just basic Japanese you start seeing inaccurate translations in the subtitles too (especially with cussing).
This is torture if the subtitles don’t match.
I have a soft spot for dubbed anime and always have, but in pretty much every case, the subtitles are not a transcript of the dub, they’re a translation of the original Japanese.
As a result, the feeling you get trying to watch that is not unlike going up a set of stairs and miscounting, but for every sentence.
It’s also torture if the subtitles don’t (reasonably) match for non-dubbed content.
This bothers me more with captioning for English language movies in English. They abbreviate a lot to make it easier to quickly read what is being said. Sometimes that makes perfect sense and is very useful. A lot of the time, they’re just cutting out details for no good reason.
It’s also very annoying for non-native speakers who want to listen to the original audio and have the subtitles as help when they don’t understand something:
AI generated subtitles are utter garbage. Combine that with idiots who can’t be bothered to check their 60 second long video for mistakes and you basically end up with subtitles that have no reason of being there in the first place
I used to do work on Amazon Mechanical Turk for extra cash. A LOT of subtitles jobs were there. They paid really high but you had to be insanely good at it. There was an acceptable percentage of errors that was not zero. Sometimes you just couldn’t figure out what was said in the video, I made stuff up but in context. I never really thought about it but we were the AI back then. Fun story, I got laid off, was late on payments on an Amazon card for a while before I paid it off. Blacklisted for life.
I feel your pain. I been learning German and got a bunch of DVDs and Blurayd digitalised. 99% of the time subs do not say exactly as it was dubbed. It counts as paraphrasing but different enough to begin to hate it.
The most fucking fun part is when you watch a local language movie (e.g. Das Boot) and subs also do not match. How? Baffles me.
If you want the subtitles to match the dub you have to specifically look for dubtitles or CC. But they are rather rare.
I prefer just listening to it in Japanese, but even knowing just basic Japanese you start seeing inaccurate translations in the subtitles too (especially with cussing).
It’s like following two different stories at once!
Different but related, it was annoying in Xenoblade 2 when Rex would yell “Homura!” and the subtitles would say “Pyra!” He did it a fair amount.
I’m with you on that. Anime has to have dubtitles if I’m putting them on there. Thankfully you can find those pretty easily these days if you need to.