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    Tbh I feel like “sexy cop” costumes aren’t hot to me anymore because it makes me think about real cops ☹️ same with “sexy soldier” costumes

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      Attended a really interesting seminar on the semiotics of kink and fetishwear. It was at International Mr. Leather, so you can imagine it was well attended.

      I think it’s a balancing act. You have to be careful not to fetishize them but also you can mock the powers that be in that sense. Not for their sake (you’re not making them feel bad of course), for your community’s sake. A lot of Tom of Finland’s art was around parodying and undoing the “seriousness” with which the state takes itself.

      But like I said, it can also become aesthetic only, at which point the meaning becomes forgotten and you end up just fetishizing cops and military without real intentionality.

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    “I told them not to [strip], but I can’t promise that their instincts won’t kick in.” - Gob

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    People generally don’t say that kind of thing to cops in the flesh, no. It’s mostly an internet thing.

    Never minded being called a pig; pigs are very intelligent, sometimes cute, and usually friendly.

    Never minded being called a racist; it’s always out of nowhere based on virtually nothing - because I happen to not be a racist.

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      generally don’t say that kind of thing to cops in the flesh

      Trust me, guy, we’re thinking it because we can also see your gun in the holster.

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          I work in for a municipal government, and our City Hall and police station share a building. We’re polite to the police just like we are with anyone else, but ALL of us that work on the admin side of the building talk shit about the police behind their backs and think they’re a bunch of overpaid thugs who are a net negative to the community.

          It’s no different for you. People who hate you will still smile and say hello.

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            I’m sure they talk shit about you behind your back too; it’s part of the culture of employment alongside radically different positions.

            That’s just how people are. You’re neither a visionary for figuring it out, nor particularly insightful for not realizing it doesn’t apply to you.

            Again, I think you’re just vastly overestimating how much people hate the police because of the company you keep; echo chambers and such.

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              People at the office, people at the school I teach nights at, people at the church I attend. They all have different groups that they talk bad about, and people talk bad about all of them.

              The difference is every single place I go that isn’t a police station people talk shit about cops.

              You’re hated, and it’s not the unjustified hate of racism, intolerance, or ignorance. You’re hated because you actively choose to drain society’s resources while stimping on people’s rights. You should be hated.

              Yeah - you may occasionally do something useful, but you’re a net drain on society and you should be ashamed of yourself and your entire profession for what you’ve become.

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                The difference is every single place I go that isn’t a police station people talk shit about cops.

                Someone who is employed to strategically and often deceptively visit consequence on you - while rarely helping you - will have no shortage of haters.

                But at the same time, there are plenty of more adult and rational people who realize law enforcement isn’t worthy of universal and unconditional contempt.

                You’re hated, and it’s not the unjustified hate of racism, intolerance, or ignorance. You’re hated because you actively choose to drain society’s resources while stimping on people’s rights. You should be hated.

                Only by people that really haven’t thought it through, i.e. people that think “cops” is a monolith and they’re ideas rather than people - antagonists in the game of Fun Crime.

                I’ve met plenty of ACABers and without exception they go from “omg u r evil” to “Oh, you’re a human being and law enforcement is more complex than I realized.”

                Yeah - you may occasionally do something useful, but you’re a net drain on society and you should be ashamed of yourself and your entire profession for what you’ve become.

                There isn’t really any political philosophy that thinks that way other than anarchists, and I view that “society is best when there are no laws” perspective as incredibly naive, so I shrug at your opinion.

                Definitely not ashamed of what I did - hope that doesn’t trouble you.

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                  99.9% of law enforcement doesn’t require the kind of police forces we have. Why are armed goons used to hand out traffic tickets? In decades of issuing building code citations, I’ve never needed to carry a gun. And my fees are WAY higher. If I can walk up to an unidentified guy with a running chainsaw and give him a $200,000 fee for clear-cutting a lot without being in danger, you should be fine writing a speeding ticket.

                  But the problem is you have an institutional attitude of cowardice. You’re like chihuahas who pretend not to be scared by being super aggressive, which makes people afraid of you, which makes them hate you, which makes everyone less safe.

                  Why should anybody respect institutions made of violent, scared little bitches?

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      It’s a survival instinct. Take your gun and other weapons away while still wearing the outfit and you’ll see everyone start calling you out since their life is less on the line.

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        Nah, I interact with people who know I was a cop all the time without a gun or the uniform. People are much less openly hostile to others when they don’t have a veil of internet anonymity.

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          It’s a shame you’re getting down voted, seemingly just for admitting on the Internet that you used to be a cop and not on the merits of your comment. Regardless of the sentiment people feel towards the police, it doesn’t change the fact that exceedingly few people would actually confront someone in real life like that, whether they are a cop, a healthcare CEO, or an AI bro.

          Such people willing to make conflict in real life do exist, but they’re few and far between. This is a well-studied phenomenon…

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            It’s a shame you’re getting down voted, seemingly just for admitting on the Internet that you used to be a cop and not on the merits of your comment.

            That’s Reddit Lemmy for ya!

            Regardless of the sentiment people feel towards the police, it doesn’t change the fact that exceedingly few people would actually confront someone in real life like that, whether they are a cop, a healthcare CEO, or an AI bro.

            True, and that’s kinda my point; the OP is built on a false premise.

            Plenty of people in this thread huffing pure copium that everyone who’s ever been nice to me secretly hates me, when in reality some people like (ex-)cops, some are indifferent, and some dislike them. As you say, a rare % of the latter say something about it.