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      I’ve always obsessively kept my photos off any cloud provider for years only to discover that the entire rest of the family have a treasure trove of fully tagged pictures of me uploaded to every major provider out there. In most cases I think it even ties the tag to my phone/email/birthday entry in their Contacts list.

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        Always wondered about this, if they receive a GDPR request from you do they have to delete others tagged pictures of you and your contact details? I mean it is your personal data technically.

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          Yeah, they do. AIUI there’s some nuance about what constitutes “legitimate interest” so it’s possible (probable in fact) they might only delete pictures where you’re the main subject but not e.g. group photos from events

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    Meanwhile their CEO loves republicans and supports fascist influencers through money and by meeting up with them for videos.

    Fuck Proton.

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      so is menero if anyone is thinking of switching (their host country’s equivalent)

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    Every single one of those websites is not crucial to existence even remotely. Let’s all collectively show them they don’t matter anymore.

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      Good luck getting the kids off of Roblox. They would literally kill someone for robux.

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      The problem is that most people don’t care about digital privacy and wouldn’t think twice when asked to scan their face to access an app or website.

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        I remember reading about a teen who gave a random website her social security number to get 75% off. She was confused why it was such a big deal. She saved $500!

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          The same people when I was trying to warn them in like 2012 - “They don’t want my data, I’m not that interesting”

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        It’s true. There’s a whole chunk of mainstream users that won’t think twice about it. I don’t blame them though. Most people aren’t educated on the negatives and our government and tech oligarchs aren’t about to teach them. I work in tech and am terminally online, so I’m acutely aware of this stuff.

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          Even people who are don’t seam to care. One of my local revolutionary socialist org’s still uses WhatsApp for there general communication. I think it takes a special kind of nerdyness and neurodivergence.

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      Not only are they not necessary, they’re actually harmful to existence. Admittedly I use YouTube somewhat through privacy front ends, but quitting all the others has been great for my health. Using nebula has also minimised my use of YouTube.

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        YouTube is the only one left for me as well and I’ve been considering Nebula myself. One thing I do try to avoid though is all of the rage bait stuff. I actively filter it out and focus only on videos that teach me things. So a lot of science, food, carpentry, and other crafty kind of channels and videos. Oh, and a lot of animal ones.

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            Why would you pay for a YouTube replacement with far less content? Just use an ad-blocker, sponsor blocker or a private frontend. Maybe even torrent-tube if your into that kind of thing.

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              Because I like supporting the small creators of the content I enjoy? Because it’s only like $35-40 for an entire year? Because I find YouTube to be full of slop? Because Nebula doesn’t use an algorithm?

              I could go on.

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                There are private youtube front-ends like freetube that don’t have an algorythm. If you think youtube is full of slop then just don’t watch the slop.

                Nebula is still centralized and has a much more limited content selection that requires a process for new creators to join. Also I’m not sure what you would define as small but many content creators on that platform earn way more than enough money.

                If you want to support creators you can donate through them directly.

                Look I hate youtube and google as much as you, I just don’t think nebula is the solution we should be looking for. We should be advocating for free, decentralised alternatives. Not another for proffit business that advocates itself as being friendly and community centered before enshitifying as soon as it gets popular enough.

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                  I already don’t watch the slop, because I watch more content on Nebula and Patreon than I do on Google’s platform. That’s kind of the point, you know? YouTube is full of slop, and watching it in any way can support the slop they send to the masses, even if you aren’t seeing it yourself. No algorithms should be a default thing, not something only power users will even think of doing. That’s what I was saying about Nebula. If you don’t want to use one of the many private frontends for it, you still do not get an algorithm.

                  I vastly prefer Nebula and Patreon to YouTube in every way. Nebula may be centralized, but it’s no where near to the enshittification of YouTube. It is currently better, so I’m happy to use it. If it enshittifies, I’ll just stop using it, because you can do that.

                  I never said Nebula was a solution to anything other than not being YouTube while having the content creators they enjoy. It’s great at that, the cut they give creators is much better, there isn’t an insane amount of tracking, etc. If the content creator I enjoy is on both YouTube and Nebula, I’m going to use Nebula every time, because then I don’t have to support Google. You know, one of the biggest companies in the world, which is worth trillions? The one that peddles slop, spies on you, and intentionally makes their platform as addictive as possible?

                  Video is unfortunately a very expensive thing to store and network. The quality of content on Nebula is better than most things you can find on decentralized alternatives partly because it is able to actually pay creators. That will continue to be the main thing stopping creators from using decentralized platforms, unfortunately. That is not to say some aren’t successful on it or making high quality content, of course. It’s just a lot more rare than the centralized alternatives.

                  Also, do you think that the only creators on Nebula are Wendover and Tom Scott? There are plenty on there that are no where near that size, and are small creators. I’m not sure why you think small creators should get shafted because large creators exist on the platform.

                  It seems that you’re okay with people using YouTube if they use a private frontend. But you’re not okay with promoting a different platform entirely, so people can completely avoid YouTube? It isn’t making sense to me.

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          YouTube is problematic because it isn’t really the platform that is valuable, it is the content creators.

          A more appropriate alternative to it is GrayJay app, which tries to remove YouTube monopoly by supporting multiple platforms. If enough people would use that, content creators could really migrate from one platform to another.

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          Peertube is probably the closest. I don’t really use either, but I’ve understood that peertube is a bit lacking in content.

          As you’re here on lemmy.ml, I doubt it, but if you happen to be a “cryptocurrency enthusiast”, then odysee might also be an option, though I’m not sure hiw much of it is open-source.

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          If longform video is your thing, I would highly suggest Nebula. I’ve paid £27.30 for a years subscription. Creators say they get paid fairly and can make content without censorship. It has been exactly what I’m into.

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            27£??? I went to their site and it’s 60€ a year… 27 £ it’s like max of 35 euros… I have to use UK as VPN to buy it then.

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              This is with a discount code. I remember discount codes being offered out by some creators on YouTube to encourage people to join Nebula. I obviously don’t look anymore, but you will likely find one of you look around and wait.

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      Because we have reached some sort of critical mass of ad blocking and anonymization online, enough that it’s starting to hurt the bottom line, so they need a solid way to track people for that shit.

      Also, the US is currently being run by a rabid pack of puritan Christo fascists, ie Project 2025. Right now it’s “protect the children”, but ultimately the idea is to track and sensor and “reeducate” people.

      “Oh, you search for ‘signs I am gay’? Better report to God Camp.”

      Don’t even think about trying to be anything that does not fit in the box.

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      roblox enforces age verification and separates users into age groups. yet, moderation is in shambles (did i mention ai-assisted?) and separating the kids in one bunch and the teenagers in another basically is just a feast for pedos and groomers