• Doc Avid Mornington@midwest.social
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    Capitalism depends on the threat of homelessness to function. UBI can definitely ameliorate the problems of capitalism, but capitalists will constantly fight it. UBI is also a great idea within socialist economies, where there would be no force against it. We should be doing both - eliminate capitalism and provide UBI.

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      Capitalism depends on the threat of homelessness to function.

      No it doesn’t

      UBI is also a great idea within socialist economies, where there would be no force against it.

      Maybe. But socialism is a stupid inefficient system, so it’s a non starter.

      UBI works very well with the market based capitalist system. That’s where I think it will shine.

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        9 months ago

        Did you know that the US does not have a capitalist system? In fact, it’s silly to think of “capitalism” and “socialism” as systems at all. They aren’t. They are broad systemic feature sets. You’ve probably heard the phrase “mixed economy”. That’s actually what nearly every nation has, a mixed economy, meaning that we have socialist, as well as capitalist, elements. In fact, without socialist elements, the capitalist elements of our economy would have self-destructed a long time ago. You clearly have no idea what capitalism or socialism even are. That’s fine, most people don’t, it’s pretty much the norm, but now that it’s been pointed out to you, you have a choice: learn, and grow, or be a stubborn fool. Hopefully you choose well.

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          Haha I have a degree in economics. That why I can see all the shit you tankies write as just plain wrong.

          But I’m sure your youtube video on Karl Marx makes you an expert on these things.

          People don’t use words as absolutes. America is largely referred to as a capitalist country. My saying that isn’t incorrect. But you can argue technicalities of words all you want, communism sucks or (mixed economies heavily leaning to communism sucks).