• Gakomi@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Well at this rate he is going to die one day of old age and the cannon ending will become the HBO one as the story will not be finished on the books

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    9 months ago

    I’ve been telling people this since somewhere around 2014/2015 when I read the third book. The first two books were well thought out, the plot moved, the exposition had purpose and was driving toward something. While I was about 2/3 of the way through the book I realized that it felt like GRRM had changed his mind about what he wanted to do with the story. The book no longer seemed focused on a destination, it seemed focused on moving characters around so that he could make something different work instead. But doing that new thing meant killing off 75% of the characters he’d spent two books developing, so he had to replace them with new ones, who were less developed, kind of cardboard cutouts of the previous ones. But now these new characters stories needed to be fleshed out so he could make their involvement make sense. In doing that he realized he couldn’t slot them in to accomplish the goals he needed to complete the story. So he kept expanding the web, expanding the universe, but never really having a plan or path in place to make it all come back together. And that’s where he’s been for over a decade.

    He hasn’t finished the books because he doesn’t know how to at this point. He can’t get everything tied together, he can’t go back to the story he wanted to tell because he killed off pieces necessary to make it happen, and the replacements didn’t fit where he needed them to.

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      9 months ago

      I stopped reading after the third book too, and that’s exactly the sense I got.

      There’s no conclusions, just character deaths. It’s just an unraveling web that becomes less and less coherent the further it goes.

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        9 months ago

        I’ve read all of them, though not very closely. Unless it was one of a handful of important characters by the 4th book I had absolutely no clue who anybody was. Names kept getting dropped like I’m supposed to know who this person is but there are so goddamn many it’s impossible to keep track.

        The last two books are like 3/4s just moving people around, and literally everything interesting that happens happens in the last 250-300 pages or so.

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    9 months ago

    I gave up on finishing those books years ago. It’s been long enough I hardly remember what happened in the last one and the next one isn’t even on the horizon as far as I can tell. It’s not happening.

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    9 months ago

    My theory is he actually helped write the ending of the TV show, and when the fans absolutely despised it, realized he had to scrap his entire ending.

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      9 months ago

      The problem was the execution. A tyrannical Daenarys as the final villain after the White Walkers were defeated makes sense, but she was never actually given the time to be the Mad Queen. She should have gotten a whole season as the big bad after her entire arc from book 1 to present being the buildup to her reign. It’s like they were given the bullet points of the ending and instead of fleshing it out into a proper story, they just used the bullet points as the entire source for the script.

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          9 months ago

          I’m still surprised how GoT was on the forefront of pop culture and within 2 seasons any and all interest was morphed to apathetic disdain. No one really talks about it anymore. It’s only “they fucked up the ending”. Blue balled an entire fandom so bad that it impacted the show runners careers. I’m really hoping HotD brings the fandom back (also, a reboot of the last 2 seasons as a whole new show would be dope)