• lemmyarcade@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    And they wonder why we get all these migrants at our southern border. Maybe if they hadn’t destabilized the entire region to the south people wouldn’t be trying to escape those places.

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      9 months ago

      I mean the big ones people like to point at (Rushia and fucking Nazi Germany) sure as shit weren’t doing communism or socialism

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          9 months ago

          I don’t think anyone points at Nazi Germany as an example of a leftist system

          I’ve seen many idiots do that unfortunately

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          9 months ago

          It’s always as a “See!! Socialism bad!!” but yep they were literally fascist, Rushia too and yet here we are with people still thinking communist Rushia was communist.

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          Both Crowder and Shapiro have claimed this. They point out that the Nazi party was the ‘National Socialist German workers’ party’ and claim that’s enough for it to be socialist, and then also claim Russia is a communist country.

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            9 months ago

            There’s a Hitler quote somewhere, in some letter that was like “we laugh at the fools who think our ideology has anything to do with the socialism of the bolsheviks”

            There was another one where he says “I didn’t want to kill the Jews, but they’re all communists”

            Someone with a better ability to keep track of sources than me probably knows where to find them

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              7 months ago
              You may be referring to a line from Mein Kampf, volume 2, chapter 4.

              The fact that we had chosen red as the colour for our posters sufficed to attract them to our meetings. The ordinary bourgeoisie were very shocked to see that, we had also chosen the symbolic red of Bolshevism and they regarded this as something ambiguously significant. The suspicion was whispered in German Nationalist circles that we also were merely another variety of Marxism, perhaps even Marxists suitably disguised, or better still, Socialists. The actual difference between Socialism and Marxism still remains a mystery to these people up to this day.

              The charge of Marxism was conclusively proved when it was discovered that at our meetings we deliberately substituted the words ‘Fellow-countrymen and Women’ for ‘Ladies and Gentlemen’ and addressed each other as ‘Party Comrade’. We used to roar with laughter at these silly faint‐hearted bourgeoisie and their efforts to puzzle out our origin, our intentions and our aims.


              And the other paraphrase sounds like a reply to Planck:

              Planck began his intercession on behalf of Haber, even going so far as to say that without the latter’s chemical process for obtaining ammonia from the nitrogen of the air “the previous war would have been lost from the beginning.” To this remark Hitler retorted: “I have nothing at all against the Jews themselves. But the Jews are all Communists, and these are my enemies — it is against these that I am fighting.”