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    You ever feel like you live in some sort of Murphy’s Law parallel universe, where the worst possible outcome of every major event happens?

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    If only Trump had a gun, this wouldn’t have happen-

    Oh wait… he’s a felon, so he can’t have a gun- but can run for president. This is America now.

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      He was surrounded by a lot of highly trained good guys with plenty of guns, the Secret Service, and even they couldn’t stop the bad guy, only respond to him.

      (I’m paraphrasing from the second season premiere of The West Wing, but the writers were dead on 24 years ago.)

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    Holy shit, he had blood on his ear? If that’s true, he was about a foot away from assassination. That’s wild.

    Edit: saw a picture of him and he was def hit in the ear. We won’t hear the end of this for a long time. “Radical democrats are so scared that I’m going to win” etc

    Edit 2: let’s do count of “how many push notifications does the news junkie get?” I’m at 3 4 7 so far. Edit: it’s a lot more than 7 but I’m done counting

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        just saw the news at it was kinda wierd. did not seem like anyone behind him got hit and he was hit in the ear and pumped his fist after ward. They said metal detectors are used so sounds like a sniper type thing. I sorta think they likely would figure out the origin. I wonder if they have him or are after them but don’t want to update yet.

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          It seems odd that a bullet might have grazed his ear yet not shot anyone or anything behind him. Also, the picture of his bloodied ear and the splatter make it look like the shot came from behind him.

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          Did you see the cherry picker gush fluid and fall. I think a hydraulic line popped hit someone and police started shooting in that general direction as is usual.

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    This is just going to further guarantee his victory. It’s fucking over. This country is done.

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      That’s my gut reaction too. It’s done. That fucking photo where Trump stood up and did the fist pump with the blood on his face and the American flag in the background:

      https://i.headtopics.com/images/2024/7/14/timescolonist/trump-rally-shooting-is-being-investigated-as-an-trump-rally-shooting-is-being-investigated-as-an-56235AE0556FFDA67127295A88A54C8B.webp

      There’s no beating that. That’s literally like a movie poster. Whether Biden stays or goes, I really don’t think it matters now.

      Also as an aside, I don’t mean this as a compliment to Trump. I think he’s a raging piece of shit and I hope he loses. But it’s elections are all about perception and I really don’t see Biden doing anything to top this.

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        You said it better than I could have done myself. It is time to start preparing the resistance now. Civil disobedience is the only way forward.

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        C’mon dude, just post your demoralizing articles and give it a rest - there is no need to further betray your intent with additional words.

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            Where is that not the case when talking about politics anywhere? Theater and life are coiled up around eachother and writhing, grasping at one another’s throats; whether lovers’ kisses, enemies’ venom is the intent, usually one comes out on top. In your good faith opinion, what will it mean when Trump loses anyway? What is the auteur going for in that scenario?

            (In keeping with good faith I’ll disclose my personal bias that I would prefer a different candidate to oppose Trump but that I also think almost any of them can get it done after Georgia, Georgia, and… Georgia where the wrong politician was topping everything by every conventional understanding or metric.)

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      From abroad, for the love of everything please go vote. Everything in the US seems to leak out and global warming is well, global.

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        My vote is irrelevant. I live in a deep blue stronghold. Nothing I can personally do is going to change what is coming, and the path that we are on. It is time to prepare for the worst.

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          Never irrelevant! Don’t find out the hard way that you may be wrong about that. Keep the stronghold strong

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      Ah yes, I wanted to vote blue, but now that the felon’s ear got shot, I’ll vote for the fashists.

      This is US politics and it makes sense.

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        No, it’s more like:

        “I wasn’t going to vote because I don’t care about or follow politics. Now I see they are trying to kill this guy so I am going to vote for him because clearly the powers that be want him gone. So, he must be doing something to fight the system like JFK.”

        Nobody who was going to vote Dem is changing their vote. It’s all the people who weren’t going to vote that now will because they either think he is badass for surviving an assassination attempt, or because of the web of new conspiracy narratives that are sure to be born from this that further serve to frame Trump as the savior of the common man from the clutches of the evil deep state.

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          I am going to vote for him because clearly the powers that be want him gone.

          A 20 year old kid is “the powers that be”? LOL. Maybe they will think instead “Wow Trump must be a huge dick if people hate him so much they are trying to kill him”.

          he is badass for surviving an assassination attempt

          He didn’t look like a badass at all. He looked like someone who had been bloodied because he was so deeply hated.

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            You are evaluating based on your perspective, and not the perspective of a middle America normie. That’s the problem.

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              You are falling for the lame Treason Trump tactic of “spin every negative as somehow a positive”. Loser Trump gets convicted of a crime? That’s good! Sex Offender Trump is found guilty of rape? That’s good! Treason Trump is so widely hated by Americans that people want to kill him? That’s good!. Never get inside a conservative’s head if you are going to come out with a loser defeatist attitude.

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                I’m not falling for shit. I’m evaluating the reality of the average 95 IQ NPC that is going to vote in this election. No offense, but the fact you can’t understand that isn’t my problem.

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                  I’m evaluating the reality of the average 95 IQ NPC that is going to vote in this election.

                  No, your falling for Treason Trump’s standard propaganda tactic of “pretend a bad thing that happened is a good thing”. The average person does not think that people hating you enough to kill you is a good thing.

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      It’s horrifying that our best hope is that a MAGA nutter kills Biden in retaliation and Harris wins in a landslide because of it.

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      Sounds pretty dramatic. With the new cycle the way it is, it will be forgotten in a month.

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      I don’t see it, the lines have been firmly drawn for years. The maga crowd will vote for him regardless of anything and the rest of us wouldn’t piss on him to put out a fire.

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      If only he were a martyr from this, but he survived. You have to die to be a martyr.

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        His base will embrace it. The question is will the center. I know I am not, as a centrist. But I only speak for myself.

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      Stop saying “he’ll be a martyr.”

      This gets touted any time any consequence could come to him. Saying this makes it a lose lose situation. Either we let him get away and do whatever or “he’s a martyr.” No. He reaps whatever consequences come to him for his actions. It shouldn’t come as an assassination, but he has to have some consequence for what he does.

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    I wonder how Trump’s public image will change after this event. Will the MAGA crowd radicalise even more? Or will he have to drop out of the presidential race for safety concerns?

    Either way, the aftermath will be interesting.

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    I love how this is a “heinous act” even though the dipshit in charge of 25 basically said theyd kill the left if they were against them

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    Grand.

    I wonder what the shooter’s politics are.

    Liberal: commie assassin

    Conservative or other: oh, just mentally ill.

    E: shot looked like it came from the left. I wonder if the shooter was outside the rally area at a distance. Anybody else hit?

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      Assassinating problematic politicians that want to be a king is sort of the point of the 2nd amendment.

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          I think everyone should probably read The Second Amendment: A Biography by Michael Waldman

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          Yep, dude who did this. Has used the 2nd for the correct purpose.

          It that light, the crowd cheering “USA” takes on a different meaning.

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        Not really. The second amendment is about states protecting themselves from the federal government. That’s why it’s talking about militias, not lone gunmen.

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        The potential for backfire is massive. Of course in our timeline, Trump gets grazed in the ear. Stop teasing us.

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          I would honestly say the odds it was a failed genuine assassination attempt are slim to none. Doesn’t this feel far too convenient? We obviously know nothing now, but I feel like it’s gotta be the knee jerk assumption.

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            I agree. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was all a ploy for attention so he can look tough, and rile up his base. That is completely on brand.

            Edit: Unfortunately, it appears to be a completely genuine, yet failed, assassination attempt…

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                Trump is a known coward. If he didn’t know this was coming he’d have shit his pants and run offstage. His reaction is entirely unrealistic to the situation and how he is known to act.

                For fucks sake he asked for his shoes and waited around for them before leaving the stage. Those are not the actions of a man who is being actively shot at.

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                  We have prior footage of him dippin’, dodgin’ and duckin’ at rallies from noises. You’re right the reaction seems off. But he could be delirious due to his aged mental acuity.

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                  Trump is a known coward. If he didn’t know this was coming he’d have shit his pants and run offstage. His reaction is entirely unrealistic to the situation and how he is known to act.

                  spoken like someone who has never been shot before…

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                  I don’t see why Trump would really need to be in on it. Plenty of people stand to gain from a trump presidency, and I’m not sure an “accidentally successful staged assassination” would be that much worse.

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    Violence begets violence, and Trump is responsible for no shortage of violence. Is this for the violence of Jan 6, or the violence against the women in his life, or some other time? I want to find out.

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    Biden’s official statement:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/13/statement-from-president-joe-biden-6/

    He’s in a video conference now.

    "I have been briefed on the shooting at Donald Trump’s rally in Pennsylvania.

    I’m grateful to hear that he’s safe and doing well. I’m praying for him and his family and for all those who were at the rally, as we await further information.

    Jill and I are grateful to the Secret Service for getting him to safety. There’s no place for this kind of violence in America. We must unite as one nation to condemn it."