• UmeU@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    122
    arrow-down
    10
    ·
    4 months ago

    Jb should have just kept his mouth shut, maybe made some half assed apology, but that’s about it. Making a big deal about how unacceptable Kage’s comment was is just pandering to the far right. It’s mostly just the far right that is pearl clutching over this.

    Comedy is the last bastion of free speech. If you do not like the joke then stop listening, move on, change the channel. Censoring comedy because someone doesn’t like the joke is the only thing that is unacceptable here. Really disappointed in Jabels here.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      25
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      4 months ago

      Yeah…

      Or maybe theres more to it than we know. I’d actually be shocked if he and his family weren’t receiving death threats for those comments, so I dunno, maybe he didn’t want him and his fans to get shot the fuck up at one if their shows (or at the very least have issues performing due to anxiety over such an event).

      Unfortunately, in the current US, it’s not an irrational fear for someone like him. I can’t say I blame him at all.

      It’s fucking stupid, but here we are.

      • UmeU@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        22
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        Canceling the tour and essentially breaking up the band is what brought all the attention in the first place. My point was that nobody in the US would have heard about this if JB hadn’t made such a big deal.

      • XeroxCool@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        43
        ·
        4 months ago

        His partner in Tenacious D, Kyle Gass, had his birthday the day after the Trump assassination attempt. When asked what he wished for his birthday live on stage, Kyle said “don’t miss Trump next time”.

        Jack canceled the remaining shows and has posted some huge social media posts about how terrible that joke was and how upset he is.

        • LiveLM@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          14
          ·
          4 months ago

          Oh and in his posts he said that all future creative plans for the band are on hold, not just the tours.

          Which to me seems like a massive overreaction. I can understand canceling the tours for safety but everything else? Eh…

          • NaoPb@eviltoast.org
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            4 months ago

            I can agree. It was a joke in poor taste but a stern talking would have been fine, right? People make mistakes and it’s best to keep politics far from entertainment.

          • ikidd@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            4 months ago

            I can’t see that unless some trump turd was in charge of the venue bookings. Most operators are going to take money over pearl-clutching, and hell knows most people that would go see a TenD concert would have preferred to see Donny take one between the headlights to begin with, so they aren’t going to complain.

    • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      4 months ago

      Especially since at the concert everyone laughed, there was no pearl clutching till the twitter post

      • BigPotato@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        Tenacious D have a song about Don Jr. bring a fascist KKK dictator who they overthrow.

      • UmeU@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        4 months ago

        The government totally sucks mother fucker, the government totally sucks…

      • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        4 months ago

        All you people up there in City Hall, you’re fucking it up for all the people that’s in the streets, this is a song for the people in the streets not the people in City Hall…

    • Zorque@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      49
      ·
      4 months ago

      The fuck are you talking about? As far as I understand it, he didn’t throw Gass in a cage to keep him from every stating a joke again… he just chose not to participate in something he didn’t agree with. That kind of choice thing you claim to be for.

      Are you some sort of free speech absolutist who only wants people to agree with you?

      • UmeU@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        45
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        4 months ago

        Imo, JB capitulated to the far right by so staunchly objecting to KG’s comment/joke… it wasn’t necessary for him to make such a big deal about it, legitimizing the outrage which, imo, wasn’t justified.

        Have whatever opinion you want, idgaf.

        Also, a ‘free speech absolutist’ and ‘only wanting people to agree with you’ are unrelated concepts… to quote you, the fuck are you talking about?

        • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          4 months ago

          legitimizing the outrage

          Was there even any outrage? The only news I read was about Jack Black canceling the concerts, nothing about Kyle Gass’ original comment.

          • UmeU@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            4 months ago

            It was a Streisand effect for sure. There was a small backlash/outrage, then JB shined a light on it by canceling the tour.

        • 1ostA5tro6yne@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          4 months ago

          it’s kind of dramatic to frame “hey it’s not cool to use our platform to jokingly encourage would-be assassins” as “capitulation” to such-and-such political movement. by all means make assassination jokes in private but it’s different when it’s through a megaphone like that - we live in an age of stochastic terror man, that shit’s been weaponized for a decade now and it’s silly to pretend it isn’t as long as the “joke” reflects your own feelings. this is some maga-level mental gymnastics, maybe think more about it.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        Why can’t people see that this is about self-preservation, not PR.

        Like for fuck sake, do you need to see gay people lined up against a wall by conservative death squads before realizing how fucked up the situation here is?

        I’d be shocked if both of them (and their families) have not been receiving death threats since Gass made the joke.