• gibmiser@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Well, I think the US public has been pretty vocal about this compared to most issues. People are really pissed at Biden. So don’t change the subject.

    I think it’s time we start publicly shaming Israelis and Jews who don’t make strong statements condemning the murder of civilians and protesting the reckless-at-best and seemingly genocidal actions of their government.

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      8 months ago

      publicly shaming Israelis and Jews

      This is about Zionism. It’s not about Jews. If you make it about Jews you are falling for the Zionist tactic of equating the two. Do better

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        8 months ago

        Really I just meant the international community of Jewish people. Many of them have strong opinions about matters related to Israel.

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          As a member of the international community of Jews, I think what Israel is doing is monstrous and disgusting. But I am in no way responsible for what they do. I don’t live there, I’ve never been there, and I have zero ability to influence Israeli policy beyond expressing my disapproval, which I often do.

          Stop spreading the misinformation that Israel = all Jews.

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            I understand your frustration at what I am saying, but I believe you have more influence over the Israeli people than I do as a non-jew. Am I wrong? I just imagine that Israeli jews would take more seriously and be more introspective after receiving critical comments from a fellow Jewish person, who presumably is more in tune with the worries and historical context of the Jewish community than a non Jewish person is.

            My opinion is more easily decried as antisemitic or ignorant and waved away. Yours is not.

            When Christians do horrible things in the name of god, don’t you think being called out by other Christians is going to carry some more weight?

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      8 months ago

      I think it’s time we start publicly shaming Israelis and Jews who don’t make strong statements condemning the murder of civilians and protesting the reckless-at-best and seemingly genocidal actions of their government.

      Are you deliberately trying to use the same language as was used against Muslims 20 years ago?

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        8 months ago

        No, I guess I don’t get your reference, unless you are referring to 911?

        If so it would be the Americans needing to condemn their government for invading Iraq, not the Muslims condemning 911.