I know there are other ways of accomplishing that, but this might be a convenient way of doing it. I’m wondering though if Reddit is still reverting these changes?

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    They almost certainly do, if only because of the practicalities of adding a new comment

    If this is true, it shifts the problem from “not having it” to “not knowing which version should be used” (to train the LLM).

    They could feed it the unedited versions and call it a day, but a lot of times people edit their content to correct it or add further info, specially for “meatier” content (like tutorials). So there’s still some value on the edits, and I believe that Google will be at least tempted to use them.

    If that’s correct, editing it with nonsense will lower the value of edited comments for the sake of LLM training. It should have an impact, just not as big as if they kept no version system.

    It would also help with any administration/moderation tasks if they could see whether people posted rule-breaking content and then tried to hide it behind edits.

    I know from experience (I’m a former Reddit janny) that moderators can’t see earlier versions of the content, only the last one. The admins might though.

    That said, one of the many Spez controversies did show that they are capable of making actual edits on the back end if they wished.

    The one from TD, right?

    • spez: “let them babble their violent rhetoric. Freeze peaches!”
    • also spez: “nooo they’re casting me on a bad light. I’m going to edit it!”
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      Wouldn’t be hard to scan a user and say:

      • they existed for 5 years.
      • they made something like 5 comments a day. They edit 1 or 2 comments a month.
      • then randomly on March 7th 2024 they edited 100% of all comments across all subs.
      • use comment version March 6th 2024
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        It sounds like what’s needed here is a version of this tool that makes the edits slowly, at random intervals, over a period of time. And perhaps has the ability to randomize the text in each edit so that they’re all unusable garbage, but different unusable garbage (like the suggestion of taking ChatGPT output at really high temp that someone else made). Maybe it also only edits something like 25% of your total comment pool, and perhaps makes unnoticeably minor edits (add a space, remove a comma) to a whole bunch of other comments. Basically masking the poison by hiding it in a lot of noise?

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          8 months ago

          Now you’re talkin .

          Intra comment edit threshold would be fun to explore