• Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win
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      3 months ago

      One is defending international civilian shipping, not Israel. The other is shooting down drones which is not the problem ya’ll are talking about right?

      It’s not even to the point. A Trump (the guy who had a private personal meeting behind the closed doors of his owned home with Netanyahu, and came out wiping his chin) presidency would see all of your gripes and far more committed to Israel. You are cutting off your nose to spite your face bitching about the lesser of 2 evils.

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            You mean defending the Nazis against retaliation while they are committing Genocide, using American with boots on the ground, is not complicity?

            Aside from the guy in the F35 pressing the red fire button everything about the Genocide is American.

            Actually scratch that there’s a probably some American colonists flying those bombers as well.

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              I’ll repeat this in the hopes it snaps you out of you rabid hate-rant:

              You are cutting off your nose to spite your face bitching about the lesser of 2 evils.

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                All that is only valid if you assume that there is a lesser evil between the two. That’s your problem, you’re left all confused at our stubborn refusal of voting for the democrats because you assume that we agree with you that the Democrats are less evil than the republicans. we don’t.

                I’m telling you that honestly, I haven’t seen any evidence that the Democrats would be any less bad, nor any evidence that they have been any less bad until now, on the contrary. I haven’t seen any of the peoples who keep telling us to vote blue give any evidence than the Democrats are less bad, you just take it as an axiom that they are, never try to actually demonstrate it and build your entire argument on this very much unfounded basis.

                Your claim here that the Republican could do worst implicitly assume that the Democrats are holding back and not giving as much to Israel as they could, except 1) the Democrats are way too rabidly Zionist and full of AIPAC money for that to be true and 2) the US, right now under a democrat president, is already sending Israel everything they can afford to send without risking to escalate into a war with Iran and Lebanon against whom they know them and Israel would lose (they did war-games to simulate a war against Iran, they lost badly. Sources: How the U.S. Military Lost a War to Iran (In a Simulation, That Is) - Mackenzie institute A $250 Million War Game and Its Shocking Outcome - The National Interest Millennium Challenge 2002 - wikipedia)

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                    All this article is saying is that the Republicans openly boast about the evil things they do and their voters are openly pro-Israel, both of which I already know, and neither of which contradict what I said.

                    Yes, the Democrats don’t give speeches in which they shamelessly talk about what they’ll do to all the peoples they hate the way the Republicans do, and pretend to care about minorities instead. But that doesn’t matter what they say, it’s too easy to say shit you don’t mean, what matter is what they do, and what the Democrats are doing is, as I’ve said, sending every weapons they can afford to Israel so that they can continue to slaughter Palestinians.

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                Joe Biden is already out mate. Your argument is completely invalid.

                Enough pressure on the Democrats and the Genocide stops.

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                    Enough voting pressure in the polls will make Democrats change their policy and force a ceasefire.

                    Supporting Democrats despite the Genocide will only boost the chance Democrats lose because they dont change policy.

                    Joe Biden dropping out is all the evidence you need that they won’t continue with a policy or candidate that will make them lose.