• Duranie@literature.cafe
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    9 months ago

    Something I haven’t seen other commenters bring up that can have a huge impact, is the overall lifestyles people are living.

    The unhealthiest years of my life were when I was working 2 jobs and struggling to keep a roof over mine and my 3 kids heads. Stress and depression were huge problems and money was tight, so sometimes the little bit of dopamine or serotonin from eating a “treat” were the highlights of the day. Add to that, the guilt of not being around to cook regular meals for my kids lead to 1) making large amounts of food on my one day off that could be eaten as leftovers throughout the week or 2) easy convenience foods (frozen pizzas, boxed Mac and cheese, etc) that the kids could make when I wasn’t around.

    Fast forward many years - my kids are adults taking care of themselves and I’m down to 1 good job that offers financial stability. My diet and health have completely changed. I actually have the time and energy to cook and plan better.

    I’m not saying this to shift blame or responsibility, but to bring a different experience. When I hear (hopefully well meaning) people suggest “just cook healthier meals” it strikes me about the same as “stop eating avocado toast and you could afford a house.”

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      Lack of free time to cook healthy food with a busier and more expensive life with salary raises that don’t keep up with inflation or layoffs for many people definitely doesn’t help. Healthy food ends up costing twice as much, if not more than unhealthy food. It’s a multi-faceted problem and should be treated as such.

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        9 months ago

        I don’t think healthy food is necessarily more expensive, at least not if you know what you’re doing. My personal experience is actually the opposite.

        The problem, as you mentioned is the time, and the emotional and physical labor of figuring out something the whole family will want to eat and cooking it. Those things are all expenditures in their own ways, but not financial.

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          9 months ago

          Tell me a healthy meal I can make for the same 5 bucks that I can feed 4 people with by buying a red baron pizza.

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            9 months ago

            You’re not feeding 4 people on a red baron pizza and no one is getting fat from sharing one with 4 people. Fast food is expensive, and so is pre packaged meals. To many people get home from work and just eat shit instead of learning to cook.

            Steamed veggies are cheap, rice is cheap, beans are cheap, grab some seasoning and a pack of chicken breasts and you can eat good for a few days for less than a single trip to McDonald’s for 2 people now.

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              9 months ago

              You’re not feeding 4 people on a red baron pizza

              I guess the dinner I served saturday night was just a drug induced hallucination then, afterall… You seem to clearly know what I do and have done better than I do.

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                9 months ago

                Cool, then everyone in your family must not be what they’re talking about in this thread since you probably don’t eat 5000 calories a day.

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                  9 months ago

                  Funny how the goalposts shift from “its easy and cheap to eat healthy” to “You’re not who we’re talking about, we’re talking about other, more convenient and strawmannable people”

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                    9 months ago

                    That’s not shifting the goal post, it’s calling out your bullshit that somehow a $5 red Baron pizza for 4 people is enough to make people fat. 380 calories is 1/4 of a red Baron Pepperoni pizza, if you ate one 3 a day, that’s less than most adults can survive on, you’re going to lose weight. So no I’m not the one moving some goal post or creating a strawman, that’s your doing.

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            9 months ago

            Love how everyone is like “beans and rice!” and totally ignoring the energy and time it takes to make such things. And not everyone is a fan of beans and rice. At the end of the day being able to have a slice of pizza may be the only bright spot when you’re living paycheck to paycheck.

            • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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              and some combination of beans and rice is the only example they can come up with.

              Who wants to eat beans and rice every single day for the rest of their lives?