- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.world
The Republican National Committee is urging the Supreme Court to intervene in an Arizona election dispute this week and block up to 40,000 of the state’s registered voters from casting ballots in the presidential race.
Republican state lawmakers say these voters did not provide proof of their citizenship when they were registered and now they should be barred from from voting in person or by mail.
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Danielle Lang, a voting rights attorney for the Campaign Legal Center who worked on the case, said she found that argument to be surprising.
“They are trying to upend the law as it has been in Arizona at least since 2018,” she said. “The voters who registered using the federal form were not asked to provide proof of citizenship.”
She said the Republican lawmakers and their attorneys who brought the case “didn’t cite a single example of a noncitizen who was enrolled. Not one. Why would someone who is not a citizen try to register? It’s a felony and would get you deported, just to cast one ballot.”
In Europe I get a voting pass sent in the mail for every election. To vote I have to show both this pass and a valid ID. The pass is kept by the polling station. Easy and quick.
How come it is so difficult in the USA to exert your democratic right? Why does one of the parties fight against people voting?
Because half of the population of the country (republicans) don’t want the other half to have any rights at all. They no longer care about freedom or this country. They only care about screwing over those who don’t agree with them. Yes, they’re that stupid.
“Why does one of the parties fight against people voting?”
In general, high voter turn out leans left.
And each state determines the rules for voting. I’m in Illinois, so when I register I’m assigned a polling place. When I go there to vote, I give them my name (no need for ID) they find it in a book, I sign a thing and they give me a ballot and tear off a receipt that I keep. I’m in a traditionally Democratic/blue State.
Republican/Red states tend to do what they can to make voting harder, like frequent purging of voter registration (and not notifying people that they’re not registered anymore) or making it nearly impossible to vote by mail, then require voting in person and limiting the number of places you can vote to the point people stand in line for hours. Oh yeah, then make it illegal to offer people waiting in line a bottle of water.
Its difficult to vote to keep people from voting. When people are allowed to vote Republicans lose elections.
Do you have to pay for your ID, and are there any barriers to getting one?
Republicans love to make it hard for poor minorities to have indentification. Hell, I am above the median age but we have to shuffle utilities around between the adults in the home just to renew our fucking driver’s licenses here because of bullshit ‘proof of address’ requirements.
For NL:
Your ID costs money, but you are required to have one if you are not at home, so it’s difficult to make obtaining one difficult. :) you need it 100%.
Also prices are in a set range, from 0 euros to 75,80 (2024), depending on what the local municipalities decide is fair (in that range).
Proof of address is obtained from the “basic person administration” (BRP), when you obtain your ID. That address is used to send you your Voting Pass and candidate list, so this is where the loop closes. If you have your ID and Voting Pass, your address checked out.
In the Netherlands it doesn’t even have to be a valid ID. If it hasn’t been expired for more than 5 years it’s fine for voting purposes.
Many European countries (at least the one I live in) have mandatory registration of residences which doubles as voter registration. In my country only homeless people and I think citizens living abroad have to explicitly register to vote.
My understanding is that this is not so in the US, the government doesn’t reliably know where people currently live and whether they are entitled to vote, so most people have to register to vote.
In the UK we didn’t even need that until recently.
You just turned up, told them your name and address, they tick you off on their form and you vote.
Now you need to show ID as well, which is just not needed. There was no evidence of fraud to start with, and almost all the ID checks are pure theatre. The woman who checked mine at the polling station was about 80. She barely glanced at the passport, but then spent ages squinting at the paper form which was right in front of her. They had a woman who couldn’t see checking the IDs. I sincerely hope she wasn’t driving home.
In South Africa it’s even easier.
There are multiple voter registration weekends 2 times a year. Or you can register any time at an election commission office.
You go with your ID document and register to vote in the district, DONE. You never need to do it again, unless you move to another district.
Come voting day, you pitch up with your ID document and you vote.
As with many American “problems” they just want to solve because it’s “too hard”
“Too hard” stopped being a valid excuse in Kindergarten.
uhhh… that doesn’t sound easier at all