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I still don’t know what ich_iel is and at this point I’m too afraid to ask
It’s the German version of me_irl. Stands for “Ich _ im echten Leben” and is a direct translation of the English
Aww, thanks! Consider me slightly more educated than when I awoke this morning :)
it is only me_irl in name though, it is a general meme / conversational community with the obnoxious (and over used to death) in joke that is zangendeutsch.
“Zangendeutsch” means an aggressive way of removing the influence of english into the german language. But outside of ich_iel we write in english as everyone. Which is obviously a little bit weird, isn’t it?
No, that’s wrong. Zangendeutsch is all about English influence and playfully literal translations even when there are better German words. So you need to translate it back to English and into German again to decode it and that’s the fun about it.
So is that the “Zange”? Because you need to go from the things you are holding (the information, in “German”) to the hinge (the literal English translation) and back down again (actual German translation) to understand (aka grasp it)‽
I’m not sure if I understood your deduction. The literal translation of “Zange” would be “tongs”, “pliers” or “pincer”. Hinges are the things that make doors swing and hold to a wall right?
Multiple source say the origin of the word isn’t documented but the best explanation they come up with is that pliers can be used to bend something into a different form.
My guess was it has its origin in the proverb “Das würde ich nicht mal mit der Kneifzange anfassen” which translates to “I wouldn’t even touch that with pliers” as in stuff you detest that much that you rather would stay away from it.
What annoys me personally about it (to the point that i blocked the community) is that it is mandatory. That’s not humor, or funny, that is weird performative scripted humor. I often felt reminded of carnival speeches.
I’d also argue that it isnt very successful in clearing anglicisms from the german vernacular when it is all about making the most incorrect and cryptic literal translation imaginable to the point that nobody could understand unless they are well versed in those anglicisms.
They’re making English a linguistic dependency for German? lol
It’s not overused if its funny. And it is very funny
Dutchie who speaks German here, I hadn’t heard of the word ‘Zangendeutsch’ before. I get what it means, but why ‘Zangen’? Does it come from tongs or does it have another meaning? Tongs-German makes no sense to me
German here, no idea what it has to do with a Zange
Happy to help
Oh my god, you’re woke!
Whoops, guess I’m now the enemy of a hundred million Americans
My bad
Omg I was reading it as “ich lel” not “ich iel” this whole time 😅 thanks
I’ve internally been saying “eesh eel”
… which now seems like calling it "me earl’
It is pretty close on the pronunciation, except ch is not sh. Unless you’re speaking certain regional dialects :)
The closest pronunciation you can get in English is probably eek.
I’ve only ever met a few native Germans in person, and understand just enough to get to the bathroom, so I don’t know if I just misheard, or they’re one of the few people who do say it that way.
I’ll take any native German’s word on their own language though! Lol or even anyone who’s studied.
I’m a German native who studied linguistics (ok, computational linguistics with a minor in phonetics and phonology), but I basically only speak my regional dialect well. I was visiting a friend in Berlin once and a stranger in a bar complimented me that I “speak good German for a foreigner”.
Hey that sounds like studying linguistics to me! Pun mildly intended.
That’s gotta be a bit of a gut punch though…
Bless you sir or madam, you know not how long I have suffered
It also incorporates c/memes, basically
It started as a German version of me_irl (hence the name “ich im echten Leben”) and developed a culture on its own including bad translations from English and other insiders
It’s mostly ramen, cows and trains now.
As in “ze
motorboathovercraft is full of iel”?Hovercraft, but yes
“War’s schon immer.”
I blocked that both on Reddit and here at the very beginning, without knowing what iel means, the posts were mostly unsympathetic and irritating.
“So, you said you’re auditing the class. Why are you so interested in learning German?”
“Uhh… memes. You can tell they’re fire, but I can’t read them.”
Doing the same with french to understand the !rance@jlai.lu 's memes
There is litteraly nothing in that community??
It’s full of french memes, maybe your instance is blocking that instance?
That might be. Do you have any idea why they might be blocked by an instance?
No idea, sorry
Who could possibly think that???
Anyway I need to get back to Stuttgart in time to watch Kraftwerk.
Boo
Yeah, where my empiricists at? All my homies hate idealism
How are there so many of them
That sounds linke you are not one of them, yet your posting history suggests to differ.
My cover is blown 🥸
“Toastbrotmann” ist jetzt auch nicht wirklich die beste Verkleidung.
aber auch nicht die schlechteste
Detective mogoh on the case. Will he solve this mystery or will the evil shitposter get away unscathed? Join us next week to find out!
I love my job!
𝕯𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖊 𝕶𝖔𝖒𝖒𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖆𝖗𝖘𝖊𝖐𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 𝖎𝖘𝖙 𝖓𝖚𝖓 𝕰𝖎𝖌𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖚𝖒 𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝕭𝖚𝖓𝖉𝖊𝖘𝖗𝖊𝖕𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖎𝖐 𝕯𝖊𝖚𝖙𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖑𝖆𝖓𝖉
Whenever I see Lemmy without being logged in , it’s a wall of German and all I can think of is “ach, du lieber… das ist not eine booby!”
For me it’s DU. DU HAST. DU HAST MICH.
Or alternatively, Ich bin ein Berliner
So you know a little German?
I’m a simple man. I see booby, i upvote
Did you wear a dress for a period in the 40s?
I’m legitimately trying to learn German because of this
Sehr gut.
Oh, no thank you. I’m full.
Macht doch nichts, da geht noch mehr.
It matters to me :(
Weiter so! Ich lerne auch Deutsch.
Yes I do like German.
I’m genuinely trying to renaturalize to Germany eventually and all I need is to learn German, so this ended up being a happy accident
I find the lack of “SPRICH” in here disturbing.
But there is a lot of “DEUTSCH” in here, so…
aber “DU”, da geht noch was!
HURENSOHN, hast du recht.
Durr heigen durr durr! See I can German too!
And this is my English:
Il faut faire quelque chose !
Salut aus Deutschland! :D
Hallo de France. Wie geht’s in der deutschsprachiges Lemmy?
Es geht nicht anders. Dieser Kommentar liest sich automatisch mit Akzent.
Eh ! Je n’ai jamais dit que mon accent était bon (^_-)
Moien Letzebuerg!
Déso, je parle pas le Luxembourgeois.
Diese Kommentarsektion ist nun Eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland
Bundesrepublik Schweizreich
Wow that flag is ugly. But now I’m wondering if it’s possible to combine the flags in a way that looks nice.
Choose your favorite: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hybrids_with_the_flag_of_Germany
The “always has been” should have been in German
Das war schon immer der anhaltende Zustand!
Is that the shortest way to say that?😂
Tja
Are we learning German now?
If you use ich_iel to learn German, your next visit to Germany could be… interesting.
To be honest… I would pay for a beer or two just to watch that.
Ich möchte diesen Teppich nicht kaufen. Bitte.
Schade.
There are several steps between learning German and comprehending whatever the fuck we’re doing over there.
Would it help to have mental illness? Cause if so, I’ll dust off some of these old Rammstein CDs and meet you guys over there after I get more proficient.
Ja
Actually I started before Lemmy but I’m bad at it still
It’s all one person, me and my other personalities.
Hi. Was essen wir heute am Abend?
Pizza, wenn das für @bleistift2@sopuli.xyz in Ordnung ist
Boah, leiwand. Krosse-Krabbe-Pizza?
OK
