The required deposit came about because Trump failed to pay an $81,837 bill from a campaign event he held at the Tucson Convention Center in 2016.

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    “Democratic Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders skipped a $45,000 bill in 2016.”

    That’s surprising, if true. Were they out of money and already out of the race?

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      From Tucson.com 08 OCT 2016

      The city of Tucson finally has one answer to its demands that the Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders campaigns pay the roughly $125,000 the city says the two groups owe for police protection at March rallies at the Tucson Convention Center.

      A lawyer representing Sanders rebuffed a formal demand by City Attorney Mike Rankin for $44,013, saying the campaign never asked for police protection and suggested it should bill the Secret Service .

      “The U.S. Secret Service typically made arrangements for all security matters with regard to Senator Sanders during his presidential campaign,” wrote Brad Deutsch, a lawyer for Bernie 2016.

      “Therefore, to the extent the Secret Service independently contacted the Tucson Police Department … to assist in its security detail, the law enforcement organization should discuss cost-sharing matters directly with the Secret Service.”

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          Certainly! It was a fun mini-mystery to solve.

          There was a bunch of old articles talking about how Trump and Bernie owed the cops money, Trump owing considerably more due to a bigger crowd. Once I found out who the 45k was owed to, that made a quick job of getting the reason why.

          It must have been another article than the one I shared that said all the money was for the cops because the convention center required a credit card for the deposit, so they could bill the candidates.

          76 cops for 7,000 people seems excessive to me though for a Bernie rally.

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            That’s $592 per cop, which sounds about right for 4 hours and $150/hr overtime pay. Yes, that’s what cops get paid in a lot of places.

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              I meant more that sounds like a high number of police for a Bernie rally. I didn’t think they required so much reigning in.

              Some googling and skimming a Seattle city guide to event policing tells me 1-2 police per 1000 attendees is normal, and the rate you worked out sounds about right also.

              It’s a huge document, over 100 pages, but just skimming it was quite enlightening.

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                I meant more that sounds like a high number of police for a Bernie rally.

                I agree that it’s a large number of cops for a Bernie rally (although it’s the right amount if their real job was intimidating Bernie liberals rather than providing actual security). I was just pointing out how much OT money cops make for that sort of gig.

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                  …four police officers could handle a bernie rally; the other seventy-two were probably to manage the fascists trolling for trouble outside…