This is why I turned to hardcore drugs. Much cheaper.
…Factorio counts as a drug, right?
Yes
Hey man, you got any of them combinators? I got a serious jones for some arithmetic combinators.
Schedule 1. No inherent benefit whatsoever. Just time dilation.
Most hard drugs are indeed very cheap. Alcohol and cocaine are the exception
I mean, what else to spend spare money on besides the things I enjoy. Like other people spend thousands travel. I spend the same amount on a box of Warhammer. Jk. I can’t afford Warhammer.
No! You’re supposed to be miserable for your entire youth by saving and investing every penny you don’t need to survive! That way you can afford all the medical bills and therapy you’ll need when you’re old and retired and have had a life devoid of joy!!
Sigma grindset!!!
You have convinced me to buy a kayak. 👍
Fuck yeah, what kind are you getting?
I’m not sure yet, I’ve been researching what to buy since then and I found this guide. It sounds like a sit-on-top with a flat hull is good for beginners, and I have a preference towards nothing inflatable also.
If you have any recommendations though, let me know! I also need to get a roof mount for my car.
I don’t have any specific recommendations, and the guide from dicks seems sensible. I will say that, having used both sit-in and sit-on, I myself definitely prefer sit-in. And I’m not a pro, I mostly use mine on calm lakes and gentle streams. My only piece of advice is to not cheap out and buy some $250 piece of junk from Walmart. It’s not going to be fun and will probably turn you off of kayaking immediately. You shouldn’t have to consciously think and make an effort to stay upright, the boat should just do that on its own. I like the brand Old Town, but there are lots of good boats out there. I hope you enjoy it.
Oh but it’s so much more fun on a canoe trip, on rivers. Everyone trying to tip each other’s boats (except the food boat). Sit-on kayaks tip the easiest but recover quick
Buoyant!
Am I the only person with financial self control?? (I hate joy)
There’s usually a point in hobbies where you can find a great price/enjoyment point. Until you want to go deeper down the rabbit hole
Why go deeper when you can quit a hobby every 3 months.
Oh yeah, so self controled… why don’t you buy a 3d printer then hun?!
Joy is DLC in my hobby.
Don’t worry, you can develop a WarThunder
addictionhobby and know neither financial self control, nor joy!Fellow people who grew up poor?
If you don’t spend money on things you enjoy, you are wasting your money.
Mine is gardening. Cheap to start, gives you exercise, and ultimately pays you in food.
Except if you plant flowers. Bulbs taste awful.
My secret shame.
Go eat some flowers!
Depends on the flower. Brassicas are generally edible and technically flowers.
Asparagus is just a fern. Idk what pineapple is but it looks fake.
Sunflowers are nice too
Pineapples are compound berries.
They grow like someone’s trying to prank others into thinking it’s how they grow.
Same with asparagus.
Asparagus made a lot more sense to me once I saw one go to seed. It branches out and looks more like a normal plant. We just harvest it before it gets to that point. Same with artichokes, they’re just an immature flower bud.
You can trade or sell bulbs though
Especially if you plant open pollinated varieties which are true to seed. So nice being able to save seeds and get more plants next year for free! Doesn’t work with everything but it does work with a lot!
“All you need is a pair of running shoes!” And another. And another. And another. Ad infinitum $$$
Take up running they said. It’s free!*
Sweat-wicking shirts! Compression socks! Non-bouncing shades! UV-proof hats! Neck buffs! Trail shoes! Gaiters! Racing shoes, carbon-plated! Recovery flipflops! Base layers! Jackets, rain and windproof! Reflective gear! A smartwatch! Training plans! Runners’ memoirs! Club membership! Race signup fees! Gels! Electrolyte mix! Protein bars!
And have you tried spirulina, it does wonders for recovery (so they say)
Wait… there are non-bouncing shades???
But how expensive is obesity?
Those shoes are damn worth it!
If your goal is weight loss then a diet would be cheaper and more effective
Fair, but a lot of people have emotional issues that make that difficult, and running can be a fun activity. Bonus: it helps someone learn just exactly how much that “100 calories” is worth - by converting into a measurement system that they already know (time to burn it off), it can help to prioritize eating goals in the future.
Exercise also has many other benefits beyond weight control though, such as heart health, overall musculature, blood chemistry, and more. thin != healthy.
But if we are getting this deep into it, running in particular isn’t the best… it’s quite hard on the knees I hear. An elliptical machine or something involving the body core like calisthenics would be easier on the body and more effective at the same time. Then again, running sure is fun… :-D
“I got into barefoot running but mainly for the savings”
Never get into actual warhammer, only videogames.
Or go for the cheaper alternatives. Or just buy a 3D printer, so you can have beautiful, unpainted armies that’ll never see any action, just like 70% of all GW models!
Turns out PC’s are a cheap hobby.
Many hobbies are cheap if you choose wisely out of your possible interests; and then go with cheap, good enough options rather than getting swept up in online echo chambers (where nothing less than top tier is acceptable).
Yeah but they don’t pull the dopamine like the expensive ones do
Motorcycles: Excuse me
Sports cars: Hold my beer
Planes:
lmao, what? Ground floor for building a usable gaming PC is $1,000. A lot more if you want to play new games with decent graphics.
And those games cost money too.
Realistically you’re spending $5,000 on a nice PC, monitors, speakers, accessories, and a collection of games. You’re going to need upgrades and additional games over time so even more money.
Compared to other “adult hobbies” such as cars even the highest end PC costs peanuts.
A relatively cheap PC with Factorio and you are set. You won’t spend much on food either, so win-win.
5k? I don’t believe it. When in get home I’ll total up my setup and compare notes
EDIT- So I bought some stuff at different prices than you’d get today (cough GPU) so I will list a few prices for.
PC Hardware
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Intel i5 10400 - $180
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RAM 16GB DDR4 - $40
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Mobo - $180
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 (Used on ebay) - $215, New is about $450
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AverMedia HD2 Capture Card - $150 (now $99)
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PCIE Wifi Adapter (Amazon) - $20
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250Gb SSD (system and files, gift) - $80
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2Tb HDD (Games, tried to save on budget) - $80
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PSU - $120
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Total Spent - $985
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Total Value - $1300
Peripherals
- 40" TV - $200 new at time, got on clearance for $100. Now ~$130-150
- 24" gaming monitor (used) - $200 retail discontinued, paid $120 used, $100 on ebay now
- 4 Hard Drive dock (gift) - $100
- RGB keyboard pad (gift) - $40
- keyboard base - $120
- White switches - $40
- Custom etsy keys - $40
- Logitech mouse - $80
- USB Hub (Ebay) - $37
- Stream Deck (Ebay) - $80
- Microphone (Used Ebay) - $70, new is $140
- Headphones -$100
Total Spent - $787 (927 if free was included)
All in - I’m at about $2k and can run Space Marine 2 and Warzone.
I don’t buy it either. My PC + an upgrade 3 years later (with a Ryzen 5800X and a used RTX 3090!) cost me about €2,000. If you want to push it, you add the TV (€1,000) because it serves as a monitor and the whole home cinema setup because the computer is hooked to it (probably about €1,000 as well).
That’s 4k and I’m stretching it. Buy a good monitor for €300, monitoring speakers or headphones for €250 and you’re already set for a high end experience.
As for games… C’mon, y’all know we sail the high seas.
I can see how it would get to 5K including games over a long enough period of time but realistically most hobbies accrue cost over time.
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That’s only if you are in the subset of PC enjoyers who like state of the art equipment, expensive accessories and expensive recent games.
I consider myself a PC nerd but 5K is more than I spent in the last 10 years on the hobby. I’ve built my main rig for <1K, own a few raspberries and my home server is an old work laptop. It absolutely doesn’t have to be an expensive hobby.
Be sure to see if your local library or community center has hobby stuff to check out or cheap classes! YMMV depending on how well funded they are, but it’s becoming really common to have a 3D printer, specialty baking pans, tools, etc.
Bruh. 3d printing is a mildly expensive gateway hobby that funnels things into other hobbies
It’s free at my local library because it’s new. Their cost plan for when they start charging is free for the first 3 hours of printing and then a max of $10 for a 10 hour print.
Gaming used to not be like that, but now a good GPU alone costs 800 to 2500 bucks. Sure you get away with cheaper components but at what cost, you got to be patient gamer to enjoy this endeavor.
The Main Reason I became an Indie Gamer.
It’s not that I can’t afford it, it’s just that it isn’t worth it for me.
You just should play different games.
For example ping pong runs on integrated gpus.
Bought a 4070 super for 600. They have come down a lot
my gpu is 8 years old, and it runs everything perfectly. I’ve never had any issues with high quality shaders in Minecraft, and i have a million mods in Teardown and i don’t really see it lag unless im testing my PCs limits lol
i really really don’t think you need to spend nearly that much money to enjoy video games
My 15 years old i5 750 upgraded with a 1060 can play almost anything. You could literally play great free games for the next 10 years on it without spending a dime. Maybe some gamers are doing too much? There’s no need to upgrade your pc every years to get 2 more fps…
Can be true but like all things it depends. In the 6 years I’ve been into 3d printing I’ve observed that lots of people compulsively mod their machines. I just print stuff. Filament is cheap and I use free online software to do designs. The repair parts I’ve made have actually paid for the machine by being able to keep broken stuff instead of replacing them. But I’m cheap. I think people who are determined to spend money will find a hobby to spend it on.
As someone who learned subtractive machining (milling, turning etc) I find additive machining very interesting. My friend bought a cheap printer recently and I’m excited to try it out.
Warning: it’s addictive. But on the plus side: It’s addictive!!
I downloaded FreeCAD yesterday and started designing a GPU holder
I haven’t tried FreeCAD but have heard good things about it. Have fun!
Never understood the obsessive tinkerers, all that work to have something worse than a Bambu P1S. To each their own ig, I just see my printer as a means to an end I don’t want to mess with it. I want to mess with the stuff I build with it
TBH the 5 years I spent tinkering with my Ender 3 were a lot of fun. Overcoming the little problems and getting the settings right was always satisfying. But at some point enough was enough. My A1 is like a little robot wizard - I hand it a file, it conjures me an object and plays a little song when it’s ready. I’m loving it!
I also started with an Ender 3 and it taught me a lot but I am glad to have a little wizard machine now
a printer is a means to a means to a means to a better printer
My hobby is hobbies. I start something spend whatever money I want whilst it entertains me and then drop it without reason and move on to something else. Some I will come back to years later.
The curse of ADHD.
When friends comment on my ever changing hobbies and dropping them, my reply is simple; it’s the journey for me and not the end goal.
Current hobbies and durations:
- Rubik’s Cube - 6 years
- Indoor bouldering - 4 months
- Running - 25 years on and off, currently off.
- Lego - 1 week. Only have one set. The Bonsai Tree.
- 3D Printing - 2 years but off right now until I can get a new printer that isn’t so high maintenance.
Indoor bouldering
Wait, what? Is this a Sysiphus kind of hobby that I haven’t heard about yet!
I’m not sure if you’re being serious right now and it doesn’t help that my Greek mythology knowledge is severely lacking (something I’ve wanted to learn more about).
So in case you don’t know what I’m talking about, indoor bouldering is like indoor rock climbing but not so high you need a belay system. Also, the climbs imitate boulders and so you might climb with all the holds being above your head, like the top of a cave.
As an expert in hobbies, I can honestly say this is freaking amazing. It’s got physical activity mixed in with problem solving and all the people I’ve talked to are super nice too (geeks, we are all geeks). If anything like me I find it hard to turn off my mind; this does that for me though. It’s meditative for me.
A bit after I posted, it occurred to me that it could’ve been that, but I was too lazy to edit my post.
I’m no a native English speaker, so I didn’t think of it at first, sorry. Also I kind of liked the idea of a hobby where you rolled large boulders in your home.
No problem. I just want to say your English is amazing for a non-native speaker / writer.
Also, I carry my burdens around the home like Sisyphus so there is that 😂.
Having a hobby in a price gouging capitalist hellscape.
Never get into Modular Synthesizers.
I got a couple Rubik’s cubes for my kids a few years ago for nostalgia and they didn’t want anything to do with them once they realized it wasn’t easy to fix.
I tried to encourage them to keep plugging at it but they said “how am I supposed to do this if you can’t?” I realized they had a point so I downloaded an illustrated book that takes you step by step through the beginner method, and after a couple of hours I solved it!
I felt like I had climbed Everest and the first thing my kids did was scramble it again as soon as I showed them. That was the beginning of me getting into cubing as a hobby, and I have to say it’s one of the LEAST expensive hobbies I’ve ever been a part of!
Like with any hobby there are entry-level cubes and then enthusiast cubes that are more feature-rich and expensive. But the Delta between the two is surprisingly small. The cube that I use the most is one that has won world records and it was about $20 I think?
I have bought several variations of the 3X3 and other form factors. I have also bought a few as gifts as well as a Bluetooth connected cube with an accompanying robot and I don’t think I’ve spent more than $300-$350 total for the lifetime of the hobby.
That said you could easily be competitive with a world class cube, a timer, a mat, and some “Cube Lube” for maintenance all for about $60-$80 no prob. It’s about the only hobby I have my wife fully endorses, lol.
I was reading your post and I briefly thought you were trying to say it IS expensive, not that it is not. And I was like is this guy on crack, cubing is cheap as chips.
Anywho, glad to see I was wrong. I learned cubing at the same time as my buddies kids did, and while I never got faster than I think a minute and a half? They are well under a minute now, it’s crazy.
I still cube occasionally, but mostly just to fidget while watching TV 🤷♂️ Also so I don’t forget how to do it.
Yeah, it’s cheap. Sorry for the lack of clarity and brevity. Lol.
I couldn’t get any faster than about a minute and a half using the beginner method so I decided to try learning CFOP. At first I got way slower because there are more algorithms to remember but I saw how some others have modified it a bit to make it simpler and practiced when I could (i.e. watching TV like you lol) and now I can solve it in about a minute.
That’s clearly not competitive in any way but I’m really just competing against myself so I’m happy with any Improvement. That’s light years better than where I started and to people that don’t know there are 11-year-olds online doing it in 8 seconds, my one minute is pretty impressive! 😂 Happy cubing, my friend!
