The U.S. conservative political commentor Candace Owens was refused a visa to enter New Zealand for a speaking engagement because she had been banned from another country, immigration officials said Thursday.
News of the ruling came weeks after neighboring Australia also rejected her visa request, citing remarks in which she denied Nazi medical experimentation on Jews in concentration camps during World War II.
Owens is scheduled to speak at a series of events in several Australian cities and in Auckland, New Zealand, in February and March next year. Tickets remain on sale and there is no acknowledgement on the promoter’s website that she has been refused entry to both countries.
Can the US reject her trip home?
This is a great way to penalize these far-right grifters. Not only are they prevented from making money on their speaking tour, but they are publicly lambasted and restricted in travel, and there’s nothing they can do about it.
There’s no way that that’ll be used against the good guys once the bad guys are in office. It’s just not possible!
/s just in case
Sounds fair, we can ban the right from going to NZ and the left from going to Russia.
I don’t mind. Any country that would ban me personally based on my beliefs is one I wouldn’t want to be in anyway. Now if they’d ban people based on their country of origin, I think that’s painting with too broad a brush. We can’t trust all countries to use such nuance sometimes.
Appoint her to the cabinet, you say?
Maybe… but wait, has she tried to rape anyone before?
Other than everyone’s ears?
I don’t know if that qualifies her
It seems to have qualified Vivek.
You know… as a fan of the elder scrolls I am deeply saddened at the namespace clash.
Just remember that it rhymes with cake. If you forget, I know this awesome rap song…
If it’s a requirement, I’m sure she could manage something on the plane ride home.
If she doesn’t have a citizenship in another country it is just this side of not happening that the sates would leave her stateless as the rules currently stand.
I don’t know if the rules have changed since the 1930s, but when my Grandfather, a German Jew, was granted UK citizenship, his nationality was put down as stateless.
So people, at least in the 1930s, could be stateless.
The german government of that era wasnt really big on following the rules
The British government was and they were the ones who put stateless on his papers.
Yeah but it was the Germans who made him stateless, the UK took him in and gave him a new state
The UK acknowledged he was stateless. He was a German citizen when he came to the UK in 1930, he became a citizen in 1936. For at least 3 of those years, he was officially stateless because the UK agreed with Nazi Germany on that point.
Therefore it was possible to be stateless then. If it was possible to be stateless then, it is conceivably possible to be stateless now unless international law had changed.
It has, while still possible it doesn’t happen often.
No shit Sherlock.
Not everybody knows that fuckwit.
Apparently not everyone knows what a joke is. But thankfully you’re here to be mr literal.
Maybe, just maybe work on your context clues there chuckles.
Don’t need to. Plenty of people understood exactly what I was saying. It’s not my fault you don’t. Have a good one sweetheart
Ah, so you completely missed the point of my comment and are tripling down on ignorance. Yay! Internet discourse.
So numpty, I was giving people information they might not have had, and your joke is rather milquetoast. You just got upset because not everyone laughed.
Like I said work on your context clues.
Lol, this is so absurd. They will ban the crazy lady but have harbored rupert murdoch as he dismantled democracy across the world. Insane.
She is banned for being a holocaust denier. Nothing to do with democracy.
What?! Read the article?! Are you out of your damned mind?
It’s there in black in white. If you can’t read then don’t talk to me.
She denied Jews were experimented on on concentration camps.
If you can’t read then don’t talk to me.
To be fair they wouldn’t be able to read this either.
To be fair they wouldn’t be able to read this either.
Or this
To be fair they wouldn’t be able to read this either.
Or this
I’m absolutely positive they dropped a /s that was supposed to be at the end of that comment. If you read it with an exaggerated tone it sounds very sarcastic
Right, holocaust denier and propagandist who speaks directly to holocaust denier crowd, no parallels there. Carry on.
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Yeah I guess if you do one good thing the only important thing is all the other good things you didn’t do. Great point.
Murdoch is an American citizen. Australians like me feel embarrased of his origins, but he’s not our problem anymore.
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New Zealand telling Candace Owens to fuck the fuck off:
Banned from two countries for being a neonazi, yet spoke at my uni twice, and protected by cops.
Make it make sense.
America - home of the free to be any kind of piece of shit you can think of.
Australia - throws you in jail for doing Nazi things
Something something sitting at a table with nazis…
Sure other places aren’t perfect, but this seems like an easy one to settle. The bill of rights have limits as already established by US courts, why in “defense” of the 1st amendment does the US feel like it has to be a nazi? I can’t answer that, I don’t ascribe to whatever belief they’ve got over there.
Nothing is “settled by the courts” with the current corrupt judges. The law is whatever they say it is. You have no rights, and nobody within the system will defend you.
I’m just saying if your courts have already established the amendments have limits, like you said “you have no rights”, then there’s no excuse to defend nazis unless they’re the only ones with rights. The decision to allow hate speech and Nazi sympathisers to spread again is a choice, which makes the whole table a table of nazis.
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Candace? — More like Can’tdace, amirite?
Good to see the Kiwi’s copying the Aussies when they told Candace to:
Get fucked cunt!
I’ve been led to believe that’s a term of endearment to you people.
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It can be, but context is important.
influencer
barf
Exactly. Anyone being called that is on my ignore list. Call me a Curmudgeon.
Curmudgeon. I aim to please.
Good
That’s Future President Candace Owens to you.
So that’s a fun question:
Can the right’s motivational spite overcome its immense racism?
I don’t think so, let alone overcome its misogyny.
I made fun of Trump before he was elected.
I’ll never over estimate US voters again.
I won’t underestimate US racism though. I don’t think even a right-wing black woman could be elected president.
I grew up in a deep red county in Texas.
A few years ago I already had co-workers from that area talking about Candace Owens, saying they’d wish she would run.
The left is over-indexing on racism. The right doesn’t care what the person parroting their idiotic talking points looks like.
A few co-workers does not a nation make.
This over-indexing on racism will have the left concentrating on the wrong things.
I can’t keep you from doing it. Just a warning.
It is not “over-indexing” to say that the U.S. is an incredibly racist country and Republicans are especially problematic in that area. Those are just facts.
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/04/09/race-in-america-2019/
Your anecdotal examples of co-workers does not trump data. Sorry.
You spoke of “facts” and then linked me a survey. After I asserted that lefties are wrong in their assessment of how the right sees race in relation to politics.
I believe Pew is a good source to get a good idea about what people think. This does not, however, mean
theysurvey respondents are correct in their assessment or correctly ascribe racial motivation to a particular political party.In fact, I believe you know this, given what’s in your source:
And when it comes to views about racial discrimination, 78% of white Democrats say the bigger problem is people not seeing it where it really does exist, while a similar share of white Republicans say people seeing racial discrimination where it really does not exist is the bigger problem.
Who’s right? It can’t be both.
I did too. Thought it would be more of a clowns falling over administration. Not demons in the sewer murdering children.
Black woman conservative why
Makes her rich. She knows racism, as she’s had to sue successfully in the past, but it’s easier to get money this way. There’s this podcast where atheists make fun of bad Religious movies (mostly Christian, with a few Jewish, Hindu, scientology, culty, and just plain weird Woo/conspiracy ones) and they are constantly surprised how bad they are yet still profitable.
They joke about just switching sides for the payout. Some people don’t have enough standards to not do so.
Drop the podcast name, please!
Probably God Awful Movies, I would guess.
“God Awful Movies”
Which podcast is that?
“God Awful Movies”
Did a quick search. Didn’t find it. Please enlighten us. Sounds fun.
God Awful Movies. They have other Podcasts too but I’ve mostly only listened to their comedy ones and not as much their serious ones. Citation Needed (not Citations Needed) is another comedy one from them, where they use mostly Wikipedia to research a subject poorly.
Nice let’s go! I was hoping for this!
Have there been any left leaning influencers or otherwise banned from major countries? Not that I’d expect the right to understand why there is a disparity there. Just for my own curiosity.
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They will probably Stream the event… Starting with “the liberal propaganda…” ending with “Sieg heil”
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Holocaust denial is antisemitic, not anti-Israel.
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