Your key issue was that Castro “jailed political dissidents.” The political dissidents jailed by Castro were supporters of the Batista Regime, who were slavers, fascists, and colinizers working with the United States. The “authoritarian action” you are criticizing was jailing fascists and slavers, this is definitionally implying that you support Castro letting slavers and fascists run free, ergo defending fascism.
You don’t know enough about the government of Cuba to not like it, as proven by the fact that you think Batista was no worse than Castro. You’re just a brainwashed western fascist who thinks their ignorance is equal to actual knowledge.
It’s fun watching this person berate you for being homophobic over an analogy while wholeheartedly supporting a dictator who persecuted, imprisoned, and forced conversion on homosexuals.
What are you talking about? The point of comparing Fidel’s actions and the commenter’s analogy was to illustrate the severity of Castro’s actions by comparison, not minimize the offensive analogy. They’re also aggressively berating the other person, unlike your genuine attempt at connection in the other thread.
Your comment feels like bad faith. If you’re genuinely stating that my comment implies that homophobic analogies are justified by Castro’s atrocities, I’ll delete it. I have no interest in offending an entire group of people.
The user you are replying to has only had issue with Castro “jailing political dissidents,” who were supporters of the fascist (and homophobic) slaver Batista regime. When this was pointed out, they never spoke out against it.
I assert that the Communists taking power was good for the people of Cuba, and that those like Castro are demonized because they liberated Cuba from colonizers, slavers, and fascists. Castro, however, was not a saint free from sin, merely a far better person than Batista with the Cuban people at heart.
I of course detest homophobia, and don’t erase that. However, it remains important to recognize that homosexuality was illegal in Batista’s reign, and that the system Castro helped build was the one that ultimately passed the current Family Code that is among the best for the LGBT community on the planet.
I’m not sure you understand that the “political dissidents” you are defending were right-wing death squads, fascists, and slavers. Of course they opposed their slaves and workers rising above them.
I cannot but defend the authoritarian, nay, the stalinistprohibition on using handcuffs in prisons. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing prisoners get what they deserve, to know that they are forced to do what they want to, to know that they have to work if they feel like it.
First off, drop the homophobia. It is entirely unsurprising that anti-communists inevitably resort to ableism, honophobia, transphobia, or misogyny to attack those supporting Socialism, but it’s truly horrible behavior. Claiming I am being “bad-faith” when you resort to homophobic attacks is ironic.
Castro was elected, and did not have absolute power. The people he oppressed were the Slavers, Fascists, and Capitalists that worked with the United States to colonize and enslave the people of Cuba. Castro is labeled a dictator for taking away the freedom to enslave, the freedom to colonize, from the United States and their allies in Cuba.
I see that now, but it was admittedly tough to grasp at first. Cowbee was able to clarify for me in another thread on this post. It may be helpful for others.
“Sucking dick” as an insult is homophobic because the root is in shame. Shame, because sexual favors are seen as “subservient,” which also has roots in misogyny. Given that I display my pronouns as he/they, it’s pretty clearly directed in a manner that tried to depict me in a “shameful” position giving sexual favors to men.
Given that I am also pansexual, this is worse, though they had no way to know.
Tangentially, “kissing ass” has similar roots. Further still, even after having it pointed out, they defended their actions. Certainly not actions I would want a moderator of queer communities to have.
I picked up on your intentions, believe me, but the origins for why it is insulting is rooted in shame, misogyny, and homophobia. To copy my comment:
“Sucking dick” as an insult is homophobic because the root is in shame. Shame, because sexual favors are seen as “subservient,” which also has roots in misogyny. Given that I display my pronouns as he/they, it’s pretty clearly directed in a manner that tried to depict me in a “shameful” position giving sexual favors to men.
Given that I am also pansexual, this is worse, though they had no way to know.
Tangentially, “kissing ass” has similar roots. Further still, even after having it pointed out, they defended their actions. Certainly not actions I would want a moderator of queer communities to have.
I defend victims of Imperialism punished for overthrowing their colonizers and creating a more progressive and democratic system. You didn’t even walk back your homophobia, and I didn’t even attack you once. The fact that you couldn’t offer any proof or counter to my sources further cements your lack of interest in the common good of the Cuban people, rather, it seems you wish to recolonize them.
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A .worlder do apologetics for the fascist Batista regime? It must be a day that ends in Y.
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Your key issue was that Castro “jailed political dissidents.” The political dissidents jailed by Castro were supporters of the Batista Regime, who were slavers, fascists, and colinizers working with the United States. The “authoritarian action” you are criticizing was jailing fascists and slavers, this is definitionally implying that you support Castro letting slavers and fascists run free, ergo defending fascism.
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Lol lol lol.
You got upset that I don’t like the government of cuba. Never have, even before they were authoritarian communist.
Oh no… an internet communist calling me homophobic as an ad hominem. So edgy.
You don’t know enough about the government of Cuba to not like it, as proven by the fact that you think Batista was no worse than Castro. You’re just a brainwashed western fascist who thinks their ignorance is equal to actual knowledge.
It’s fun watching this person berate you for being homophobic over an analogy while wholeheartedly supporting a dictator who persecuted, imprisoned, and forced conversion on homosexuals.
Oh, guess you lied about changing your mind and missed me praising the progress of modern Cuba in cementing a much better family code.
What are you talking about? The point of comparing Fidel’s actions and the commenter’s analogy was to illustrate the severity of Castro’s actions by comparison, not minimize the offensive analogy. They’re also aggressively berating the other person, unlike your genuine attempt at connection in the other thread.
Your comment feels like bad faith. If you’re genuinely stating that my comment implies that homophobic analogies are justified by Castro’s atrocities, I’ll delete it. I have no interest in offending an entire group of people.
The user you are replying to has only had issue with Castro “jailing political dissidents,” who were supporters of the fascist (and homophobic) slaver Batista regime. When this was pointed out, they never spoke out against it.
I assert that the Communists taking power was good for the people of Cuba, and that those like Castro are demonized because they liberated Cuba from colonizers, slavers, and fascists. Castro, however, was not a saint free from sin, merely a far better person than Batista with the Cuban people at heart.
I of course detest homophobia, and don’t erase that. However, it remains important to recognize that homosexuality was illegal in Batista’s reign, and that the system Castro helped build was the one that ultimately passed the current Family Code that is among the best for the LGBT community on the planet.
Slavers and fascists supporting the Batista Regime were right to be jailed.
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I’m not sure you understand that the “political dissidents” you are defending were right-wing death squads, fascists, and slavers. Of course they opposed their slaves and workers rising above them.
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I cannot but defend the authoritarian, nay, the stalinist prohibition on using handcuffs in prisons. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing prisoners get what they deserve, to know that they are forced to do what they want to, to know that they have to work if they feel like it.
(This is a sarcasm)
First off, drop the homophobia. It is entirely unsurprising that anti-communists inevitably resort to ableism, honophobia, transphobia, or misogyny to attack those supporting Socialism, but it’s truly horrible behavior. Claiming I am being “bad-faith” when you resort to homophobic attacks is ironic.
Castro was elected, and did not have absolute power. The people he oppressed were the Slavers, Fascists, and Capitalists that worked with the United States to colonize and enslave the people of Cuba. Castro is labeled a dictator for taking away the freedom to enslave, the freedom to colonize, from the United States and their allies in Cuba.
I think they meant sucking dick like kissing ass, not like sucking dick as a form of punishment. I don’t think it was intended to be homophobic.
Intended or not, it is.
I see that now, but it was admittedly tough to grasp at first. Cowbee was able to clarify for me in another thread on this post. It may be helpful for others.
“Sucking dick” as an insult is homophobic because the root is in shame. Shame, because sexual favors are seen as “subservient,” which also has roots in misogyny. Given that I display my pronouns as he/they, it’s pretty clearly directed in a manner that tried to depict me in a “shameful” position giving sexual favors to men.
Given that I am also pansexual, this is worse, though they had no way to know.
Tangentially, “kissing ass” has similar roots. Further still, even after having it pointed out, they defended their actions. Certainly not actions I would want a moderator of queer communities to have.
Absurd.
Yeah, not sure how they didn’t pick up on that.
I picked up on your intentions, believe me, but the origins for why it is insulting is rooted in shame, misogyny, and homophobia. To copy my comment:
“Sucking dick” as an insult is homophobic because the root is in shame. Shame, because sexual favors are seen as “subservient,” which also has roots in misogyny. Given that I display my pronouns as he/they, it’s pretty clearly directed in a manner that tried to depict me in a “shameful” position giving sexual favors to men.
Given that I am also pansexual, this is worse, though they had no way to know.
Tangentially, “kissing ass” has similar roots. Further still, even after having it pointed out, they defended their actions. Certainly not actions I would want a moderator of queer communities to have.
Lol, those who defend authoritarian regimes aren’t one who should be throwing stones. Done with you.
I defend victims of Imperialism punished for overthrowing their colonizers and creating a more progressive and democratic system. You didn’t even walk back your homophobia, and I didn’t even attack you once. The fact that you couldn’t offer any proof or counter to my sources further cements your lack of interest in the common good of the Cuban people, rather, it seems you wish to recolonize them.
Makes sense that you run away.