All the major engineering disciplines do the same basic formulas with different concepts. Fluid flow, mass flow, electrical ‘flow’. Are all the same basic equations. Software engineers don’t need to do that, they are further away from the actual math which is what makes engineering, engineering.
If you can’t acknowledge the flaws of “your team” then you have a problem. Like clearly one is a shit ton worse than the other but if we don’t speak out about what we don’t like about our “team” how is it ever going to get better