Thanks for your input! I’ll have to take a minute some time to go to the web interface and just look around db0 and see for myself whether it feels like a good fit for me, I appreciate you sharing your thoughts!

I’m broke as shit but… I kinda want one someday lol

What a cutie! Pretty spots :)

Yeah, I’m not really mad at that. I don’t think it changes my sentiment towards generative ai, but I don’t mind people finding ways to create their own fun and roleplaying or whatever

Thanks :)

I wish we could see what outlet it was for context

Generative ai and machine learning are pretty broadly considered different if adjacent technologies if I’m not mistaken

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2024/06/25/the-vital-difference-between-machine-learning-and-generative-ai/ probably not the best source, I just grabbed what came up

They don’t really do the same thing, and have different types of outputs compared to one another, even if both use a neural network of weights or whatever

As a person who has spent a huge amount of my life making art I think the idea that it will get more people into art is naive, and I think being devoid of understanding artistic principles it makes poor reference compared to anything else, which is part of why artists communities loathe generative AI. I follow tons of artists online and they all periodically have to stop and vent their frustration.

A youtuber artist did a whole video explaining how finding reference on the internet is now borderline impossible due to ai content, and after problem solving explained you can avoid that problem by only looking at images older than when gen ai became widespread. It reached a pretty big audience and was extremely well recieved by artists, broadly, hate gen ai and want nothing to do with it 😅

Also just wanna clarify- I’m not downvoting you. I try to downvote when a comment is bad behaviour or doesn’t add anything, not just when I don’t agree with someone

I think the appeal of seeing stuff that people make is that it reflects the humans who made it.

I’m generally not especially interested in what an algorithm produces, at least not in the same way or for the same reason as I am things made by people.

I don’t know what gen ai could produce that I would sincerely find good, it lacks the humanity that gives that product any worth.

Is that generative ai or machine learning? I really don’t have the same issue with machine learning

Its not just llm’s, I find calling ai generated images “art” frankly offensive and demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of what art is and why it’s important to us as humans. But my issue is really just generative ai

I don’t really think people have an issue with machine learning, it’s useful for all kinds of stuff, and doesn’t really come with the same ethical problems as best I’m aware, so I have no reason to complain about it.

That is genuinely really interesting, I didn’t expect it to be db0. Thanks!

Huh, I wouldn’t have guessed db0, interesting. I’d kinda considered exploring db0 as a future instance but maybe its not such a good fit for me. Thanks for the answer!

That doesn’t really help me or add anything to the conversation. I already have views on ai, I was really just asking about the dynamics and cultures of different instances because I find learning about those cultural differences interesting.

I’m personally not a fan. Its a commercial product built on the theft of intellectual labor by creatives and the primary selling point of generative ai is that it can replace the people who do that creative labor. I’ve tried using it at various points and it straight up made stuff up and ended up not helping me find what I was looking for at all. I tried to use it to generate practice text I could translate into Japanese for language learning and it constantly used words other than the ones provided- words I didn’t know in japanese.

It has hypothetically useful usecases, that I pretty much never see anyone actually implement, and it feels very clear that the only reason anyone is investing in it is because it can reduce the need to pay actual humans, generating more money for people who already have tons, while wasting huge amount of electricity and resources.

Telling me, apropos of nothing, that having a stance other than neutral is “stupid” doesn’t add anything, give me anything to consider, substantiate any stance, provide any details, etc. I don’t really need to know that you think I’m stupid for not liking ai.

Thank you, I struggled to look it up and find an answer that made any sense 😅

Which instance is pro ai?

Looks tasty, I wish I was eating it :)

Huh… I have a top loader and grew up with one so it’d never occur to me this is needed, since with a top loader there’s no reason to close it, it doesn’t get in the way by being open

I’m glad I saw this thread, if I ever have a front loader now I’ll know to leave it open :)

Man, now I want deviled eggs

Hope y’all have a blast!

Ya love to hear it 😊

Hope you have a good one!

I feel like I’ve also heard this discussion from a friend regarding neon genesis evangelion, which I still haven’t seen

That looks fucking stunning, I hope it was as delicious as it looks!