Making my point

You literally had to make something up to be mad about.

And yes, I’m blocking you, because there’s no value in arguing with a troll that has to completely swap the opposing argument just to feel superior. Goodbye.

Aaaaand you’ve willfully ignored what I’ve said so you can do more grandstanding. This is precisely what I’m referring to. Your first sentence shows that you didn’t even understand what you were replying to.

For context, I was saying that meat corporations may be paying trolls to make vegans look like loons and idiots in a similar fashion to Russia’s pro-Trump troll farms. That is the exact opposite of what you’ve now claimed.

I can think of two possible reasons for your complete failure at a response:

• First, because you felt the slightest opposition to your position, even if the opposition is only to your methods, was a personal attack, in which case, you’re doing thr job plenty well yourself, or
• Second, because I nailed it, called you out, and you felt you needed to cover your ass.

And based on the complete disconnect between what my comment actually said and the ignorant content of your own, I’d say the latter is entirely possible.

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Thinking about it, it is strange that such extremist behavior seems so prevalent around here. In the real world, I haven’t heard much like this since the Australian couple that malnourished their puppies years ago. They displayed the same level of smugness the whole time.

On the fediverse, however, it seems like I see someone yelling “carnist rapist murderer” every couple of days. I’m honestly starting to think that there actually might be some kind of corpo-backed false-flag going on here, it’s so extreme and constant. There are people in this thread alone who are so extreme it reaches the point of parody.

Yes, they did. Either way, however, not shearing domestic sheep is harmful to them, and I’ve personally seen the molestation “argument” appear in response to such a statement in the past.

Someone who’s more informed might respond with something about the selective breeding. Plenty will still respond with the same energy already seen within this thread.

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Can’t help but notice the sudden influx of downvotes for any comment that isn’t making the claim that all farmers fuck cows. It’s almost like some kind of brigade.

Let me ask you this: where do you stand on shearing sheep?

EDIT: Since the user chose to ignore my question, I’ll just explain my reasoning. Many vegans consider the shearing of sheep and using of wool to be cruel, with some having ‘rape’ and ‘molestation’ narratives like those being addressed in this meme and active in this thread. Despite this, modern sheep require sheering for their health, and will become matted, heavy and overheated otherwise.

I came up with an idea recently so I just have to ask: are you a false flag? Your behavior doesn’t serve to make anyone more open to your position. In fact, it serves the exact opposite purpose. So, really, are you a false flag trying to make people less receptive to veganism as a whole or what?

It makes me think of that Stone Henge thing just recently. That was such a despicable shit show that people have been calling it a false flag to distance it from actual activism.

The screaming, raging, seething and antagonizing only serves to make people less receptive to such ventures.

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Rowling owns the rights to the Harry Potter IP, a fact that can easily be verified using multiple sources with a simple search. As such, she makes royalties on every single use of the IP.

And BTW, no one denied that she makes any money from it, they just denied that it matters.

I also never made the claim that denying that she makes money makes you an “outright transphobe” (a phrase I also never said, despite your quotes.) I stated that denying the relevance or existence of transphobia is the same as a tactic used by racists.

Everything you just said, and everything you attributed to me, actually only happened in your own head. At first I thought you might just be confidently incorrect, but the absolute depth of your lies makes the truth clear.

Opaquely lying like this is also a tactic used by various types of bigot. It’s called a “straw man argument,” is an unethical tactic that adds nothing to the debate, is a favorite of bigots everywhere, is generally applied when one has no real argument, and is only effectively applied in far less obvious manners than this.

The energy you’re giving off.

I see your position, my response was more a vent about the thread in general up to this point, and people like a few users up there (who I chose not to name), who would prefer to pretend the matter doesn’t exist at all. I wouldn’t consider people like that allies. They’re closer to the group of racists who like to claim that racism doesn’t exist any more. In fact, this thread follows the description of “refuting” found in this article very well.

The fact is, that was my point from the beginning. It literally started with “No, Harry Potter and transphobia are not totally separate issues,” (albeit in a sarcastic manner returning the energy I was initially met with) which is a concept that immediately drew vitriol.

Your response seemed genuine, but also seemed to miss the point, which is why you caught my venting.

Edit: Right here is the absolute most out-and-out example of what I’m talking about in this thread. A comment made up strictly of easily verifiable falsehoods. An obvious, poorly-thought-out straw man argument, and users are still upvoting that despite how blatant it is. There is a genuine transphobia problem in this thread.

Not at all. In fact, denial is a common tactic. See the “racism doesn’t exist” crowd for a prime example. I think you’ll find it’s full of racists.

Well, someone said terfs had nothing to do with Harry Potter, I said the IP is owned by a terf who makes millions from it, and you said “Yawn,” so… Yeah, pretty much.

Put simply, a terf owns the IP, money flows back to her. Outright denial of this fact is borderline transphobic itself.