Trump is plenty criticized. He’s been pilloried by the media for the past 8 years. I don’t really think this argument makes any sense. I think cognitive bias makes Biden supporters more sensitive to this criticism, just as Trump supporters falsely believe that the media has been unfair to him.

And again, coverage about Biden “misspeaking” catches on because voters have serious concerns about his age. And because he and his advisors have deliberately attempted to hide information relating to these concerns. When the mask slips, as it did in the debate, of course it’s going to make a splash.

Trump was smart to stay out of the way and not do anything dramatic while democrats panic. However, this shooting will likely break the old Biden media cycle, and we’ll see where it goes from here. I think the media will be happy to criticize Trump once things settle and the next topic comes down the pipeline.

Of course. And there is a right way to criticize certain coverage but I don’t see the Biden camp doing this. They’re instead just using it as a shield to avoid addressing real concerns that voters have.

Let me know when you figure it out because I’d like to know.

I don’t think it’s a good strategy, I don’t really buy this narrative that the media is so mean to Biden, and it’s bad for society to criticize good journalists just because their coverage is unfavorable to you.

If anything, the media is too kind to Biden. They should be ruthlessly honest in reporting on political leaders.

Yes, attack the media when you don’t like their coverage. Great idea.

It’s good news relative to my expectations which were that things would get worse. But yes, the situation looks quite dire here.

So how do we answer this question in an analytical way that can be agreed upon by most or all factions in the party? Because right now I just see lots of people angrily shouting their totally unfounded opinions and assuming everyone who disagrees with them is insane or a shill. This type of dialogue is extremely unhelpful.

I will say that I do not know if Biden is the best person to beat Trump or if Harris is or if it’s someone else. But I think having the most unpopular incumbent in history who is struggling to mount a campaign makes it a reasonable question to ask.

If anyone has well-reasoned thoughts on this I welcome them but I really haven’t seen any serious attempt to answer this question yet. Perhaps it is unanswerable.

Do democrats? Seems like we’re entering the same fact-free reality as the right, just about 5-10 years behind.

I think there is a world of difference between a Trump presidency with a democratic house and senate and a Republican supermajority. While both of these are unlikely, how close we are to one or the other will make a big difference in how effective the fascist takeover will be.

I personally think Trump is likely to win no matter who the candidate but having a stronger candidate will have a meaningful effect on other races that matter greatly.

Humphrey is only a single data point. We can’t draw much of a conclusion from a single event. Maybe Humphrey lost due to the nomination process but I think it’s more likely he was just a weaker candidate. Particularly regarding his pro-Vietnam war stance which was very controversial at the time.

If you narrow your scope to just the presidency maybe. The real worst case scenario is he completely fails to run an effective campaign and creates a huge red wave sweeping a big group of fascists into power.

But is that normalized for cost of living? Highest in the nation might still be near subsistence level in one of the highest COL states.

Such as?

What in your opinion should we be doing? Besides voting and shitposting.

Not necessarily, it’s just a common tactic in politics to “leak” something to the media to make a positive story seem more credible by making people think it’s some hush hush secret.

So it may well be true, but I suspect the messaging is coordinated by the Biden campaign.

Almost everyone.

This strikes me as a pretend leak kind of story.

Yeah I do enjoy him but he’s definitely got a different vibe. Much more satirical.

So all of these answers have some truth to them, but they are also missing a key factor. The heritage foundation exists because they are paid tons of money by billionaires to sit around and come up with ways to strengthen their dominance over society. The left simply doesn’t have many supporters with that level of wealth. While it’s possible to do this on a voluntary basis it’s a lot harder than getting paid to do it.

It’s not just republicans. Voters have been concerned about Biden’s age since 2020 but democratic leaders have been insisting it was fine anyway. The debate was the first time most voters saw Biden speaking at length in a non-scripted manner in a while, and it looked very not fine.

Weird I wonder why that didn’t work when I voted for Hillary.