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  • Why not just tell me those things instead of making it a hypothetical?

    I think those are all valid points to raise and consider. I voted for Bernie in my primary and Hillary in the general.

    Like how the superdelegates were all pledging their votes to Hillary way ahead of the first primaries.

    Was there a single state, where the popular vote was for Bernie but the super delegates swept in and gave it Hillary instead?

    Or how the DNC pushed Hillary over Bernie

    This is not me shrugging it off as a totally cool and reasonable thing, but is that any different than any other election year, from either party, where the established power structure of the party has a preferred candidate? What I’m saying is I don’t think this is anything specifically anti-Bernie as much as a very well established pattern of nepotism that goes back centuries.

    as was clear in the Debbie W.S. leaked DNC emails.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but did not the DNC emails show that proposed rat-fuckery was ultimately rejected?

    Also, the widespread pressure from party darlings on Bernie to drop out.

    Just par for the course, and not special opposition because Bernie is Bernie.

    Messaging from the media was to blame as well

    I agree with you that the media wasn’t fair in their coverage. Maybe just have been my own echo chamber but I do recall seeing polling data showing Bernie did better against Trump being brought up all over the place.

    However, I’m only pursuing discussion of the claims/sentiment that the DNC denied Bernie the nomination. I see that sentiment popping up a lot, and it always completely ignores the fact that Hillary won the popular vote in the primary. Just like Trump just won the popular vote in the general. The only way the parties will change is by enough people showing up in their primaries to nominate better candidates. They aren’t going to change because we’re mad about the results of the election. They don’t care what non-voters think because non-voters don’t win elections, voters do.