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outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Today I Learned@lemmy.world•TIL Erica Chenoweth et al. studied over 323 movements and found that in aggregate, nonviolent civil resistance was far more effective in producing changeEnglish91·16 hours agoAnd in that case, i would credit the violent movement with the success, and the “nonviolent” movement with giving them an ego saving out.
As a test: I would like to ask this researcher, peacefully, to cut the lib shit.
For different value sets and use cases, dear.
Oh, that’s why everything else you said seemed a bit off.
‘A solution’
That’s not even remotely the point. Yes there are nany valid solutions. The point isn’t to solve it, but what how you solve it says about and clarifies your ideas.
Im not sure it supports the argument he’s actually making, but its true and valid here.
And why we should fight them tooth and nail, yes.
They’re not just replacing us, they’re making us suck more so it’s an easy sell.
He’s said some relevant stuff
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.comto News@lemmy.world•ICE agents chase after farmworkers as they flee fields during latest raid in Ventura County1·19 hours agoi visited the foothills once
I have lived all over the state. I know it pretty well. I don’t think you do.
logistics are hard
Yeah. That’s what i said. I didn’t say we would stay healthy, i said they couldn’t starve the people without going hungry themselves. Im sure they could just burn it all. Might not even take two people, with enough gear. It is that season, after all.
chuds
Yeah they own stuff. But i buy my groceries from these peoples’ families, and they arent all cool with this. Also, fuck who owns it, who do you think does the labor?
the panthers didnt
No. But you just kind of ignored everything i said so you could say something technically true and put it where a response to me would go.
aircraft carriers
Don’t get me started.
projecting
So i got you?
And were smarter than the average american.
Also to sloppify all media.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.comto News@lemmy.world•Troops and marines deeply troubled by LA deployment: ‘Morale is not great’4·20 hours agoI’m saying all their orders to even be deployed in LA are illegal.
Maybe something will change when they’re ordered to live rounds.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.comto News@lemmy.world•ICE agents chase after farmworkers as they flee fields during latest raid in Ventura County11·20 hours agosupply lines
Look at a map. Talk to the people in all the places you’d have to go through. Maybe if they let this die down, and start it with something other than a police action. But if this goes hot? From fed cops? No. The sierra-nevadas may as well be in afghanistan.
They wont be the hardest place in the country. That’ll be between chicago or appalachia-but they will be a no-go zone for fed troops.
who’s we
True, it wont be universal. I’m even seeing people in OC upset about this though, and if the admin’s lost them, they’ve lost every major foothold with californians. Maybe downtown palo alto, for about five minutes. Maybe san diego, if they skew the demographics with a few aircraft carriers-but theres not much food between there, mexico, and the mountains.
old dudes with small arms
You don’t even know what a maoist ‘people’s war’ even is, and that’s likely the doctrine they’ll start with. You certainly don’t know who the panthers were, or the kinds of people they were. You don’t know what or where you’re talking about.
chuds
Chuds can’t and wont do real work. Not in numbers, anyway.
prison labor
Then the food all burns. Prisoners are busy.
other flavors of slavery
Notoriously productive resilient and efficient with their military resources: Slave States!
Plus, that’ll really help keep the populace complacent. You know where the us military recruits from? You know how overrepresented african americans are in it? They do plantations, they cut off at least half of their troops, with only terminally online white boys to replace them. It’ll be the posters army, and not even the good posters.
You play too many fucking map view strategy games. Go outside, maybe read a book. Or at least play the more complicated map games.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.comto News@lemmy.world•ICE agents chase after farmworkers as they flee fields during latest raid in Ventura County2·22 hours agoand around
Unless they’re airlifting it all out. In which case it still has to fly over terrain that’s not to their advantage. And we also make the missiles here.
The best option for them would be the port of oakland. Theres lots of shitty tech bros there, but you still see tributes to the best and best dressed mlm’s to ever pick up a rifle, some of whom are, while far past fighting age, still kicking around a dense high tech city-and this would be for their food supply line, so it wouldn’t exactly be possible to starve them out.
owned by
The farms are all staffed by people who hate them. Every single one, not just here but especially here. Even the small/mid sized farmers-and i have talked to them-hate this shit, or are literally beibg chased out of the fields, literally as i type this. The logistics lines are disproportionately worked by those same people.
Maybe they could get corn and wheat.
Or maybe you could get marines to pick apples, if you didnt give a single shit about the morale of your troops, health of your trees, abysmal recruiting numbers, already too-small military…
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.comto News@lemmy.world•Walmart’s Billionaire Heiress Buys Full-Page Ad Urging People To ‘Mobilize’ At June 14 Anti-Trump Protests1·22 hours agoNot good. Acting on its own self interests, which isn’t always a dure thing.
Those self interests aligning with ours, however, is, an indicator that this is not just an extinction level threat, because there are lots of those where they don’t ever, but a fucking bad one.
Also, thank you for being basically a person. This topic does a lot to convince me those aren’t a thing.
His politics weren’t perfect, but he got more nazis killed than a lot of people with much worse takes, and was a genuinely brilliant reasonably ethical contributor to a lot of cool shit that should have fucking stayed cool.
Barely even spicy.
Okay but if i say something from outside the hype bubble then all my friends except chatgpt will go away.
Also chatgpt is my friend and always will be, and it even told me i don’t have to take the psych meds that give me tummy aches!
Oh. Yeah, totally. Successful violent campaign or successful nonviolent campaign, ill take the nonviolent every time.
The problem is…