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This is very similar to what the nazi and the soviets did. Removing people under pretext of law with no regard to process or people. It doesn’t seem as extreme but the course is definitely clear.
To the troll that keeps regurgitating “illegal aliens” rhetoric. Dressing up with masks and shit doesn’t grant one an authority to pick people of the streets. Any “leader” that enables this just wants chaos and doesn’t give a fuck about the nation. It’s just tyranny under the guise of patriotism. It happened many times before.
Well put, Mr. Satan
They will be doing this to citizens standing in line to vote.
Americans are about to ruin the neck gaitor
Going to be fun putting all these monsters on trial after Trump is gone.
Haha good one.
Going to be fun putting all these monsters on trial
Gonna be fun watching democrats be like “trust the system! the wheels of justice turn slowly!” until it’s too late. Again.
This will be the sad reality at best some show trials with pardons when red regime whores are back in power
Honey, trials don’t convict fascists. That’s a fundamental misunderstanding of law.
Fucking shiro ishi ended uo dean of tokyo medical school. Nobotsuke kishi’s dynasty only ended when some guy killed his grandson with a home made electric shotgun. Most of the italian fascists, aside from Mussolini, who notably did not get a trial, ended uo employed by the cia.
Germany wasn’t much better.
You don’t give nazis trials.
I feel like the end result will be like Nuremberg. Sure. Some of them got light sentences. But a lot of the leadership hung.
The ones whose names everyone knew, and not even all those. That’s not what trials are for.
People don’t like these historical facts.
They prefer to live in fairy tale where Mossad hunted every Nazi down and killed them. Makes it easierto cope with the reality I guess
Where mossad was founded by a bunch of former SS officers?
I am not aware of that but my understanding is that they collaborate with Nazis and avoided targeting the “good” Nazis
Oh. The protocols larpers had an SS unit.
Stand your ground, Pubs love that shit… Be the good guy with the gun brah
I can’t wait for the trial about it gunning them down is self defense,
if it is a trump appointed judge, then it will clearly be considered illegal, which mean the whole point of 2nd amendment (defend against a tryranic government is BS)
or reasonable judge, which will determine it is self defence, then let the fun begin.
Would it be in poor taste to call these people jihadist?
They’re terrorists by any definition of the term, jihadists suggests they adhere to the idea of jihad which seems a little far fetched
Boo, but jihad just means holy war like Allah means God. I literally learned the word jihad from playing FF8. When do we take borrowed words literally versus phonetically?
When words are taken into another language, their meanings often change from the original usages though
Anytime you want
Oh so they can breathe through those masks. Isn’t it strange how it was difficult for them 4 years ago but now they’re totally fine with it.
Tbf, the mask is a bigger inconvenience when you’re picking up veggies from the food isle than when chasing down migrants while hoping over a couple of fences. Don’t your see? The aerodynamic design of the mask will…
Buy some guns and do it to them then.
It’s America
I mean, honestly, even without violence, this would be a fantastic protest technique. Imagine if whenever there was an ICE raid, there were hundreds of people dressed indistinguishably from the ICE thugs. Normally this doesn’t work at protests. If you put on a fake LAPD uniform, they’ll arrest you for impersonating a police officer. But since these thugs aren’t in uniform, then you’re not impersonating an officer by dressing like them.
“ICE thug” should be the standard uniform for every protester. Watch as their raids collapse into absolute chaos as they can’t figure out who is actually on their team. Watch as the police thugs escorting ICE get completely confused as they don’t know who to shoot their rubber bullets and tear gas at. Just imagine protesters milling about in active raid scenes, walking in like they own the place, giving contradictory orders to ICE foot soldiers, etc. Hell, the protesters could “detain” many of the people being seized, load them into unmarked vans, drive them a mile away, and then just let them go.
This can be weaponized, all without using actual weapons. Protesters could dress up like these ICE thugs and completely destroy their operations. ICE have forgotten that cops wear uniforms not just to protect the public, but also so that cops can tell who is actually a police officer.
It’s time ICE learned exactly why police wear uniforms. By not wearing uniforms, they’ve made themselves comically vulnerable to mass disruption by nonviolent protesters. They’ve completely destroyed their own chain of command, and they are vulnerable.
Lol. Try this and you will get shot by some “peace patrols” like in Salt Lake City last weekend. You lefties really think you’re having big brain moments with stupid little comments like this huh
It’s so cute that US idiots are having “baby’s first fascist takeover”. Here is how it usually goes.
- Roving far-right militias attack people on the streets and kill anyone politically active left of Hitler
- People get fed up with shit
- Roving far-left militias attack people on the streets and kill anyone politically active right of Stalin
- People get fed up with shit
- Roving far-right…
- …
- …
- Hyperinflation and the destruction of the economy
- …
- …
- Wealth stops having a meaning, political power just means you have a target on your back, 12 presidents dead in 10 years
You’re destroying your country you geniuses. Your money is losing its value, your country is losing its credibility even with its own institutions, random small foreign countries are cucking your foreign policy. You’ve already lost like 30 years of power built, and every month you lose another year.
Why aren’t masked and armed individuals with weapons and no badges, that make attempts to abduct people, being shot?
Probably because the Democrats are so anti-gun/weapon. The target demographic probably leans anti-weapon, even if they’re not necessarily Democrats. The combination keeps them more vulnerable. It’s even worse when carrying weapons in these areas is outright banned: no training, no permits, only police. The safety of the group is generally prioritized over the safety of the individual. Which, like here, can be a problem.
From how they’re acting, it seems only a matter of time. They seem to check all of the boxes for a lethal or deadly force in nearly every state, even the strict ones. An unidentified suspiciously dressed group aggressively surrounding you and preventing your retreat? Lethal/deadly force can often be used to defend another person. Someone else can shoot these idiots in plain clothes with no identification.
Even if “police” identify themselves late, it seems to be setting themselves up for a weak defense
Never have I hoped the L.A street gangs just take this matter into their own hands
Because the whole second amendment thing was about carrying a gun in the hope that you get to shoot a black person, a school kid or a teacher.
Lol what? How idiotic of a comment…
So where atr all these good guys with guns
Sad yet probably true
We should respond to these people as what they are, domestic terrorists.
No they’re not. They’re enforcing the law.
Go to any other country in the world illegally and see what happens
They are not, in fact, enforcing the law. See Abrego Garcia.
When masked men in other countries roll up and black bag people to unmonitored black sites we call it what it is, secret police.
Overstaying a visa is a misdemeanor. Should jaywalkers get sent to torture camps? Shuffling people in to camps to starve wasn’t right when Greece did it either, but they had the excuse of being overwhelmed by volume, not deliberate cruelty.
Where’s the well regulated militia you Americans scream about so loudly when someone suggests not letting a mentally ill child own an assault rifle?
Isn’t this exactly the government tyranny that argument is used to defend against?
A lot of these areas have much more stringent gun laws. Yes, they can own the guns, but they can’t carry them. Carrying/displaying will probably get them arrested and charged with a weapons felony.
I’m usually told we’ve moved beyond the need for people to do that. Then we should just leave the use of force to the police: The organizations that consistently seem to try to prove we can’t trust them. I agree, the police should be an organization Americans can trust: How can we make them that way?
Does anyone see the irony?
- U.S. conservatives “trust” the police, but still want civilians to be armed.
- U.S. “leftists” distrust the police, but want them to be the only ones armed.
The U.S. never fixed their trust issues with police. So this seems like the logical result.
This has been asked many, many times. Most of them are on Drumpy’s side. The same fucks on Jan6.
I think they’re the same people that are locking up random immigrants
Quit calling them immigrants, they’re illegal aliens invading the U.S.
Where’s the well regulated militia you Americans scream about
So, one could argue that the well regulated militia in question is constituted by the National Guard, as they nominally are the armed forces of individual States, and can be nationalized under certain circumstances.
Except for the fact that Trump just nationalized the California National Guard when he’s nominally not supposed to…
One should argue that. Even though the national guard acts as a branch of the military, technically they are whats considered a “organized milita” and are actually under the control of the state government
The way the legal system in the US works is just incredible. There are things that are very much illegal, but if the president does them apparently everyone is just fine with it.
The majority of citizens are not “fine” with it, we are watching the results of the capture of every branch of government.
The template for this actually played out in Texas. Texas has a very weak governors office in terms of formal powers. Under George W Bush the Republican party systematically took control of each state office and coordinated their efforts to effect the agenda of Bush, Perry, and now Abbott.
They are doing the same thing at the federal level with project 2025 under Trump, they took the supreme court, and now they have removed the career civil servants that would refuse illegal orders from Trump.
If history of other dictatorships is any guide the powers of ICE will be expanded steadily and the other law enforcement agencies and military will be continually overshadowed by ICE and eventually subordinated to them, like the Republican guard of Iran or the SS in Nazi Germany.
They’re too busy gargling republican boot to bother rising up against the tyranny they’ve cried about for decades.
To a unnerving amount of people’s surprise, they only cared about the power of the state when they thought it was being used improperly (having a tolerant democracy), and are more than happy to see it used the way they want (hurting brown people)
It’ll come for them at the finish. These brown shirts should pick up a history book. The people who helped the Nazis rise to power did not live to get to enjoy it.
This is quite a terse way of putting it.
10/10. No notes.
Yes. Nobody wants to be first because they and the next xx% will be the sacrifice.
if it’s not the home of the brave, it won’t be the land of the free
Those 2a chuds will never rise up against a tyrannical government.
They’d rather kneel down for a tyrannical government.
Hey dumbass, it turns out that:
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Each state has its own laws about this. Where I live the same state constitution that ALSO specifically grants us the right to own firearms for self defense explicitly forbids belonging to any private militia.
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My part (Democrats) is so overwhelmingly anti gun that 99% of aren’t armed to begin with. So precious militia you’re smugly pretending to ask about? Yeah you’re looking at them in the post to begin with. They’re all boot licking fascists.
Nice try though, pretending disarming Americans is the answer to anything other than more deportations, more oppression, and so on.
I’ll give you this: literally neither side gives a shit about the actual underlying problem: mental health. Over half of ALL gun deaths in the USA each year are from suicide. You don’t need an AR15 for that. Banning and removing all guns successfully won’t stop all those people wanting to be dead, but my fellow Democrats don’t care and the fascists sure don’t.
LOL. My point was, when you have come down of your high horse, that the opponents of gun control hide behind the Second Amendment and the need to protect themselves from government overreach, but those are the exact same people who jump up to volunteer to do that exact bit of overreach.
Plus I get to have a little dig at your country’s ridiculous gun laws at the same time.
opponents of gun control hide behind the second amendment
What? That doesn’t even make any sense. Anti-Gun folks continually make laws against the second amendment (Imo, I know this is gonna get a lot of flack here but that’s not the point.
The second amendment protects the rights of civilians owning guns. And folks who are pro-gun tend to overwhelmingly lean right after years of bastardization from the left.
Maybe actually read the second amendment, and the arguments made by both parties before you “take a little dig”
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The thing that I don’t get about those people is, what do they think the “well regulated” part means?
Do you actually want an answer? I think you know the details aren’t suitable for a public forum.
My Army training would kick in, and I would shoot the terrorists.
/c/iamverybadass
So you would let mexicans get snatched?
If you can make a difference and don’t, that’s more of a problem with your character.
Never roll over for the fascists. Once the immigrants are gone, you’ll be next, and there will be noone left to stop them.
Given nobody has shot at ice agents, I doubt based on statistics alone that you would actually do it
Never say never. Keep an eye on the news, I guess. 🤷♂️
You ain’t gona do shit, geodad. Go back to Reddit with your lefty virtue signaling
Dox all these fuckers. Attack and take their masks. Spread photos everywhere you can. Make their lives terrible. They’re not law enforcement they’re gestapo.
Perhaps the only valid use for glitter
The diet version of Brad Pitt making a swastika scar on nazi foreheads so they can’t take it off like their uniforms in inglorious bastards.
Should try that die they use when you steal shit. That stuff lasts forever. How does one bulk buy that. Nothing a squirty water bottle, water gun or balloon couldn’t handle either.
Unfortunately a water gun would probably give them reason to shoot you.
Super soaker!
Let’s do it!
I’ve wanted to suggest things like this, only frustration I can think of is, could you risk glittering an innocent bystander and having people accuse them of being ICE later.
Worse.
Gestapo did not wear masks and they had their legal documentation/warrants ready and available. They were not hiding.
All public facing media was controlled by the state in Germany. That’s not possible anymore without killing all the electronics and means of sharing media, aka the internet.
I mean… In some ways maybe that is not worse. Perhaps there is some shame associated with working for ICE.
It’s not shame they feel, it’s about self-preservation. They know that if everyone knew who they were they would be reprisals.
If anybody knew who any of these guys were, and worked out where they lived, I wouldn’t give them 24 hours. Eventually they’ll deport the wrong person and someone with a gun will decide that the ends justify the means, and that’ll be that. It will probably spark a massive military escalation on trump’s part, but it won’t matter to them.
True, there ought to be!
If camera phones and the internet were available then they absolutely would have hidden their face, in the beginning at least
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Democrats need to thoroughly clear out everyone in ICE as soon as they get the chance.
Spoiler alert they absolutely will not and democrats are going to keep using this shit too
You’re still pushing that “my government is here for me” bullshit? You haven’t noticed but you’re gonna have to do that yourself boss.
I’m saying this now, so I can point back to it when they inevitably don’t.
ICE folks should raid banks. Gotta be people hiding in the safe right? And cops won’t stop them to ask questions, so win win!
Isn’t it the job of the opposition party at this point to propose legislation that outlaws this practice? To run candidates on a platform of reigning in these abuses? To run ads with scary music saying how the government is infringing on liberties etc?
Rural Republicans already fear three letter federal agencies: BLM, ATF, etc. Play to their fears, this very low hanging fruit, Democrats.
California “No Secret Police Act” introduced, would ban police from covering their faces - CBS San Francisco https://share.google/yBJZoO8cseW6R5mc9
Who’s gonna enforce it? LAPD and LASD are pissed because they can’t join in on the fun and that’s why they’re trying to kill protesters instead.
