• KokusnussRitter@discuss.tchncs.de
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    20 days ago

    Actually kinda cute :3

    (Please let the cheating be the only morally questionable thing. Please don’t let there be a suspicious age gap or power disbalance – no I don’t know a thing about his affairs)

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      I dunno, giving a partner the silent treatment until they say the “correct” thing seems icky.

      I guess it all checks out with the cheating and drunk driving.

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          It’s that he only responded when she clarified she was joking.

          It’s not the time between texts, it’s the reaction.

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              Why are y’all giving this drunk driving cheater the benefit of doubt?

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                You’re right. In fact, I suspect Jaimee wanting to watch “desperate housewives” was her asking to watch secret footage Woods recorded of his wife Elin Nordegren whenever she was distressed. Utterly depraved.


                Edit: Joking aside, “the benefit of the doubt” implies there’s doubt, but you’re manufacturing the doubt. People in a normal, healthy headspace do not think this way about text messages.

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                    Are you seriously just going to dodge these accusations of Woods recording his distraught wife for his mistress’ amusement? Is there something you’re not telling us about your own cruel voyeurism?

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                  They’re at the very least terrible texters who got verrrrry defensive lol

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        You’re extrapolating way too much from these six texts. Like Tiger Woods is not a good person, but you’re seriously just assuming way too much here even accounting for that.

        These were leaked by the New York Post in December 2009, so the lack of a year indicates September 30, 2009. (Woods was cheating with Jaimee from about April 2007 to December 2009.) I can think of a million reasons why a celebrity athlete in the middle of a Wednesday might not get back to their secret love affair via text for over an hour, let alone in an era where a text message was socially even less urgent than it is today.

        Unless it’s obviously urgent, waiting an hour between messages is 100% normal; it’s a text message.

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            Nah, the unknownmuncher got it right before I did: if you think an hour between text messages is “the silent treatment”, you need to seriously reevaluate how you treat text messages.

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              It’s not about the time between the texts, it’s that he only responded when she apologized.

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                Yeah, if there were a pattern of that, I might agree. You’re taking a single data point and extrapolating way beyond reason. If you look at the rest of the texts, there’s nothing to suggest he treated her like you’re suggesting, and even if we didn’t have those other texts, there are just a million reasons why someone might’ve not gotten back until that third message. You’re chalking up what’s exceedingly likely just a coincidence (again, it’s an hour) to malice.

                There’s literally even another text that reads: “don’t text me back till tomorrow morning. I have to many people around me right now”. Like this is an obvious problem for anyone cheating, let alone a celebrity. It was, again, the middle of a Wednesday; there’s no reason to expect Woods wasn’t just, like, a little busy for an hour. (Edit: I personally did this yesterday, realizing I outright forgot to reply.)

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                We don’t know that’s what he did, there aren’t even timestamps on this. If I text you a joke now, and then don’t get anything back, and then I send you a follow-up text saying “I was just joking”, and then sometime after that you get back to your phone and see the joke and the follow-up, no one can assume you only texted because of the follow-up.

                Maybe you got my first one and said “screw them” and waited for an apology, maybe you didn’t get the first one until after the second had been sent and saw them both together and replied to both, or maybe you saw the first and went “heh” but forgot to actually respond to me in the moment, and it wasn’t until after the second came through that you went “ah shit, right”

                But only the receiver can know which is which.

                Anyways! I don’t give a shit about Tiger Woods, I just hate miscommunication and assumptions of ill-intent, and I’ve seen first hand too many times a person who is more connected drawing all sorts of conclusions for what a silence might mean, or how mad someone must be, or reading into a gap that simply isn’t there. The receiver just is doing something, they’re not on their couch staring at their phone, and the sender is spinning out all sorts of stories to explain how they’re being ignored or attacked. It’s anxiety.

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                Of the things to get upset about with tiger woods, this communication thing is an odd one.
                Someone makes a joke. You chuckle and go back to what you were doing, or you don’t chuckle and still go back to what you were doing. They send another message that makes you realize they expected a response and took your lack of response the wrong way, so you reply telling them you knew they were joking.

                Not every message needs a reply, to say nothing of an immediate one. How would you have had him reply?

                Do you reply to every message immediately?

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                  Do you think not responding until your partner says the correct thing, in this case “babe I was kidding”, is healthy?

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                    Nope, seems a bit wrong to me. I just don’t see that behavior in this interchange.

                    No one has alleged he’s that type of asshole, so I see no reason to assume he is. Not every period of silence is the “silent treatment”, and responding after someone apologized isn’t the same as not responding until they apologized.

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        I’m not defending Tiger because he’s a magat asshole (in addition to the DUIs and infidelity),

        …but letting an hour elapse between texts is not “giving the silent treatment,” and acting like it is is batshit.

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              Believe people when they tell me who they are through their actions?

              Yes.

              I have a pretty low threshold for people who mock others.

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                You’re still mad about people playing forehead tic tac toe on an image of an anonymous woman with lashes drawn on her face above her eyes?

                The woman in the original picture likely did it as a joke herself. It’s ok to laugh at people (men and women) being ridiculous.

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                  You’re still mad about my comments over the weekend.

                  Yeah that’s just cope.

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                    So my question was, do you do this in real life? Jump down people’s throats for injustices you make up in your head? Or are you more timid in person, and just exercise your pathology anonymously online? Because that’s a behavior more commonly associate with toxic men! Think 4chan.

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                    Cope? You can’t possibly believe she was serious with this:

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        I dunno what all these people are on about, I see it too. The joke from the picture is literally him giving her the silent treatment as the joke.

        To me, though, it was less icky and manipulative, but more, he’s cheating and doesn’t really give a shit about her. Like, my unease was more from his final response that seems universal for somebody who’s only in it for the ass. Which is basically the same thing, but still different. One is manipulative, the other is just that they’re aren’t on the same page about what their relationship is. Right? You can’t be manipulative if it’s really fucking obvious that you aren’t interested in what they’re saying and aren’t even trying to hide it. Well, you can… But… Yeah… okay, I tried; It’s gross and manipulative.