The conditions you put those girls in were worse, Andy. Wish, I could feel bad for you. Oh wait, no I don’t.

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    Whether he’s being truthful is the question, butt those conditions should be absolutely unacceptable, no matter who’s in there. When the state takes responsibility for housing inmates, they need to do it right. It should be clean, they should be treated humanely (insofar that’s possible when you’re keeping people in cells) and they should be kept healthy.

    I see in this thread a lot of people whose gut reaction is to be happy that a piece of shit is being treated like this, but you guys do realize that this treatment is not just limited to Tate, right? Do we really want a society where this shit is accepted, or in this case even praised? It degrades all of us.

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      Given how much he was lying about conditions previously, nobody should be feeling elated yet. But on the bright side, by taking the stand in his extradition bail hearing he hurt his chances in any future trials, especially any he testifies in.

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    He’s having a shit time in prison, but is still able to tweet about it? Since when are inmates allowed social media? What a douche.

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      Probably though an intermediate. So he would have calls and someone on the outside who can tweet for him. He may even send letters or have access to prison monitored technology. Still more than he gave to the girls and women he trafficked.

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      Absolutely! People we hate deserve inhumane treatment because we’re moral and ethical and have the right reasons!!! We rule!!!

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        You are grossly underestimating the situation when you turn this into an issue of personal hate. We are talking about a person who is damaging the world at large by actively turning younger generation into mysoginist, toxic males, likely committing sex slave trafficking (wouldn’t be surprised if minors involved) and making tons of money out of both. When you turn this into an issue of “hate” then you are either pointing at the wrong target conciously (for whatever reason I can not say) or really haven’t thought this through at all.

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        Morality is not being soft on people who need help and also being soft on people who need punishment or retribution.

        Your virtue is in being soft with the good people and also being equally harsh with the bad ones.

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        The bright side of this is while he’s in the worst cell, he’s occupying that spot, no one else is.

        Changing jail conditons for everyone will take time.

        Meanwhile, probably better him than anyone else in that prison.

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        No, we just like to see these people in the process of learning that being treated like shit is not fun. And that you should therefore not do the same to others.

        And yeah there’s a bit of schadenfreude in there feeling justice being served to an absolute vile shitty human being.

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          …learning that being treated like shit is not fun. And that you should therefore not do the same to others.

          I agree, which is why I don’t cheer when anybody does it. I hope you eventually learn that enjoying somebody’s suffering doesn’t actually resolve your personal anger issues, it just makes it easier and easier to enjoy other people’s suffering.

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            No no, I would much rather Andrew Tate not be punished for his crimes. That would mean we lived in a world where he wasn’t allowed to (or simply didn’t) put his victims in worse conditions where they were raped, beaten, and forced to make porn.

            We do not live in that world. Furthermore, there are young men who idolize this man. They need to be taught that actions have consequences and that they should not replace him. His suffering will send that message well.

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            Not really, I am relatively old, have always been like this and the set of people whose suffering would make me happy is small (basically people who fuck up the world at large for personal gain). I haven’t turned into some grumpy mean old guy who fantasizes about making a person who annoys me suffer, or even those who are locally a menace to people around them. Anger issues? Again maybe only against a very small set of people. I don’t think there is anyone around me that would categorize me as particularly angry.

            I think the words you are looking might be frustration (at being able to do almost nothing when some people really fuck the world up) and losing hope (that there are just some people who don’t have a single ounce of conscience in them).

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        Does it help that I’m only happy he’s suffering because he made his victims live in worse conditions?

        The conditions in our prisons are deplorable, but every so often, they end up being an ironic punishment.

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    The irony is, despite all his bitching, they’re protecting him. He’d be thrown around like a dog’s toy if he was in GP. Prison really is not the place for a pretend tough guy.

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    Good, get fucked. This malignant cunt is responsible for mentally ruining an entire generation of young men and the rapes and exploitation of countless women and girls, he deserves all of that and more.

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      Seriously, though, how does he tweet? I thought you don’t get internet in jail?

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        Most likely he’s talking to his lawyer or relative once in a while and then they transmit the information to someone who’s posting on his behalf

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    Oh yeah he’s living in third world poverty conditions, and yet somehow has access to Twitter to moan about it. Something seems off.

    I suspect what is actually happening is that he’s in protective custody, because everyone wants to stab him either because they hate him because even criminals have standards, or because they reckon stabbing the alpha male will make them super duper extra alpha male++. If he were put in general population he’d probably be dead within 24 hours. I don’t want him to get stabbed and die, I want him to live for a really long time in a really small prison cell.

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      Any high profile inmate is going to be given “special treatment” as you said anyone in gen pop is going to want to make a name for themselves. Mabey they won’t care who he is or mabey he can put a gang together quickly for protection (doubt). Most prisoners aren’t going to Accept his hard man persona and would see him as a rich person ripe for extortion.

      That said he is milking a systems that has been cronicly underfunded and hasn’t kept pace with most studies with prisoners wellbeing. I doubt they are as bad as he says but complaining about not having hot water seems a bit low on his issues right now.

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      I see what you’re saying but let’s assume he’s not lying (because we have no reason to assume he would lie on the internet). Those conditions are barbaric. We shouldn’t be subjecting people to that. We don’t get to do awful things to him because he was caught being awful to others. That solves nothing.

      He made a very reasonable request. He wants to be in gen pop with the others. An Eden of culture and comfort. Totally free to swallow his own teeth in a roach-free environment.

      And how can we as a humane people say no to that?

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        Maybe, just maybe he’s at risk around other inmates, 'cause you know: even most inmates are people who made mistakes but are not total POS, and they wouldn’t treat him nicely.