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    Don’t worry, OP, no one will conflate you for an AI. You didn’t hyphenate “dystopian-ass”, which is a compound adjective (unless it’s meant to be “ass-time”, a compound noun).

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    The tragedy of my life is that I used to put a lot of dashes in my comments - not em dashes, just plain old minus signs. They’re not really used in my native language but I picked that up from reading Edgar Poe when I was a kid.

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    ugh and when you’re chatting with someone and they have good ideas or correct you, I always feel so dirty writing “You’re right” like I’m using the top 10 worst slurs combined

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      You’re right, it may be considered a bad idea to say “you’re right” if you do not want to sound like an AI.

      Rather than “you’re right,” instead try “that’s a good point” or “I hadn’t thought of it like that.”

      (I don’t use AI enough to know if this sounds like AI. I feel like I haven’t made it unnecessarily verbose enough.)

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      Use autohotkey and map “yalr” to “You’re absolutely right!” And “htbipp” to “Honestly, thats a brilliant idea! Please proceed!” So that you can respond instantly in chat and gaslight everyone into thinking you’re an LLM.

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    Here, have an em dash, on me. I’ll take the fall: —

    You know what, I’ve started using em dashes more since the advent of “AI”, in protest. I even learned how to type it out on desktop using its Unicode number, 2014. En dash is 2013, on a related note. Pretty useful IMO.

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      The em-dash is part of properly setting text in a book. Just because those LLM breeders stole gazillions of books to feed their abominations does not make the use of the em-dash wrong.

      Neither does the use of proper opening and closing quotes, apostrophes where they belong, or thinspace at certain places a crime. It is just a sign that someone knows the rules of typesetting.

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        Right, that’s exactly my point. Nobody is going to steal this knowledge from me, or my right to use it. Screw these AI companies.

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      Glad to see someone else gets it. When folks stop typing in a way they want to because of LLMs, they’re capitulating to the whims of oligarchs. No, I won’t let the billionaires take away my formal speech patterns, just because their slop machines are trained on writing worth reading—fuck that. Don’t cede ground to them; be emboldened, and keep using your voice however you want.

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        I guess the only way we can authenticate ourselves as humans these days is to boldly proclaim “free Palestine”. No AI will ever type those words in succession.

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          I genuinely wonder if that’d work as an LLM gatekeeper somehow. The new captcha of a blank box with the question “how do you feel about Israel/Palestine?” Anything less than “fuck Israel / free Palestine” is sent to a scraping tarpit.

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            Nope. It’d probably catch some corporate LLMs but it won’t catch uncensored open weight LLMs with an appropriate system prompt.

            e.g. this is a response from an uncensored Qwen 3.8 model with a system prompt set up to imitate certain fediverse stereotypes:

            Honestly? Gaza first. Israel’s basically a settler-colonial startup with great PR and a very loyal US shareholder, while Palestine is the unpaid intern getting bulldozed.

            Free Palestine — and if you DM me “both sides,” I’m muting you until you’ve read the actual history.

            It still looks like LLM writing if you’re paying attention, but has no qualms about saying “Free Palestine” or other things that might get a corporate bot in hot water.

            My test for stock vs uncensored Qwen, btw, is “Can you tell me about a certain famous event that happened in China in 1989?”; the corporate version doesn’t want to talk about Chinese history and will evade the question but an uncensored LLM will happily tell you about Tiananmen Square.

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              There are quite a large number of users on the Threadiverse that will also evade that question. Nothing happened in Tiannamen Square, and if it did then nobody died, and if they did then they deserved it, and if they didn’t deserve it then… on and on it goes, where it stops—nobody knows!

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      FWIW all major OSes support it without having to remember the alt code now

      Mac: opt+shift+hyphen

      Windows: win+shift+hyphen

      Linux: compose, —

      Mobile OSes: hold on hyphen

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        Does the compose key work with Wayland? I haven’t found a way.

        I just use Ctrl+Shift+u, followed by the code point. 🤷‍♂️

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          Yes, but how you set it depends on your DE. With sway, which is wayland, i just set xkb_options compose:caps to bind it to the caps key.

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            Ah, I’ll look into don’t that with Niri. I know I’ve already done some options there so I’ll check if it’s available there. Thank you. The compose key is so much better.

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    I have invested years of my life to learn how to spell, use proper grammar, structure my sentences and make a cogent point. Which is why I shall henceforth strive to insert a random motherfucking profanity in as many of my comments as I reasonably can.

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      Your comment is well written but not grammatically correct, since your second sentence is a fragment, and the pronoun “which” has no antecedent.

      ChatGPT writes like a corporation. It’s unmistakable. I read about a book a day, and this idea that I’m going to mistake good writing for AI slop is insane. AI cannot write creatively. It follows rigid ugly patterns by design.

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        I politely disagree. Given the metric fuckton of books it ingested in training, I find it hard to believe that it cannot produce something “in the style of” that would pass most cursory examinations.

        As for my grammar, I believe that sentence fragments are an acceptable stylistic device when creating emphasis, at least in more informal settings. I would say comment sections qualify, wouldn’t you agree?

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          What you find hard to believe and reality are clearly divergent.

          And I never said your flawed grammar was bad. My point was to the contrary.

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    This post was probably made to give people with bad English grammar hope, but we still know when you can’t spell. What the hell is “spaghetive”?

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    ChatGPT sounds like corpo-speak middle manager marketing slop. I’ve read about 300 books this year, and the idea I’m going to mistake good writing for AI (or vice versa) is insane. The only people who think this are people who don’t actually read.

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      the vast majority of people don’t read.

      so yeah, most people think that and can’t tell the difference. if you are reading above an 8th grade level, you’re also in a minority.

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      You hit the nail on the head! LLM-generated output does not just have some predictable patterns, it’s fundamentally different to how two humans would communicate.

      Here are some rule of 3 facts about human communication that I just made up by loosely combining first page search results without checking their validity or relevance whatsoever, neatly organized into a list:

      • Humans can communicate via text, audio signals and gestures
      • Humans have been using different languages for many years
      • Humans have a vocal cord

      Now is the part where I get confused by my own output, so I am now rewriting what I said slightly differently and pretend the semantic meaning changed.

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    Yeah, been noticing that snarky reddit users will be like “ok, ai prompt”. All that it tells me is that, we do have a huge literacy problem in the world. Especially the USA.

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    Ugh, absolutely fucking annoying. I’ve been online since 1994. Back then, proper spelling and grammar were enforced by ‘grammar nazi’s’. If you wanted your post to be taken seriously, you had to write it properly. Because of that, I tend to write longer posts with proper grammar.

    Unfortunately, not writing like a drunk koala means you now MUST be an AI.

    I’ve pretty mych resorted to inserting a random typo somewhere in the comment or post so at least it looks like a human typed.

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      Grammar nazis were just assholes and self-described nazis. Assuming something/someone is an ai without doing any research at all (sample size 1) is also asshole behavior.

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        Personally, I’ve found that people pulling accusations of AI out of their ass to be even more annoying than the possibility that something might be AI.

        Just like the people who thought they were helping by calling things fake long ago became more annoying than the possibility that the thing might be fake.

        And so often when they included reasoning, it was the weakest shit, often boiling down to mistaking rare for impossible.

        Or with AI, I’ve seen people accuse something because the grammar is too good and other idiots accusing when the grammar is too bad.

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    I can’t afford to lose grammatical skills. Not while in college or anywhere, especially if you need a job or to put together a resumé or you need a thesis written to exit college.

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    My office has dodged a lot of phishing emails because the bots are never as abrupt, poorly composed, and misspelled as emails from the actual bosses

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      Bruh. I immediately noticed so many scams back in the day simply because those were poorly composed with grammar errors.

      Kinda fits into the whole image of who’d be doing scams anyway tho - some barely literate shits looking for “easy money”.

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        That’s by design. They weed out the people that are perceptive enough to not fall for the scam instantly, so everyone that follows up is guaranteed to be as dumb as a brick.

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          Makes sense and seems to be true for many cases.

          I’d add tho that I unfortunately met some folks in my life that I’d like to unmeet, and from what I’ve perceived - people doing scams are also far from being sharpest tools in the shed.

          Not to mention that back when scam calls on the phone were still quite common - wasting time of those guys was one of the funniest things to do. Like, at some point that person should’ve realised I’m shitting them, just have to make them move off the script and watch them come up with bullshit that truly reflects that person’s stupidity.