https://zeta.one/viral-math/

I wrote a (very long) blog post about those viral math problems and am looking for feedback, especially from people who are not convinced that the problem is ambiguous.

It’s about a 30min read so thank you in advance if you really take the time to read it, but I think it’s worth it if you joined such discussions in the past, but I’m probably biased because I wrote it :)

  • ggppjj@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    As far as I understand it, they’re given equal weight in the order of operations, it’s just whichever you hit first left to right.

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      11 months ago

      Yeah 100% was not taught that. Follow the pemdas or fail the test. Division is after Multiply in pemdas.

      I put the equation into excel and get 9 which only makes sense in bodmas.

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          8 months ago

          The y(n+1) is same as yn + y if you removed the “6÷” part. It’s implied multiplication.

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              8 months ago

              Well I’m not seeing the difference here. Yn+y= yn+y = y(n+1) = y × (n +1) I think we agree with that.

              • 💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱@programming.dev
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                8 months ago

                Ok, that’s a start. In your simple example they are all equal, but they aren’t all the same.

                yn+y - 2 terms

                y(n+1) - 1 term

                y×(n +1) - 2 terms

                To see the difference, now precede it with a division, like in the original question…

                1÷yn+y=(1/yn)+y

                1÷y(n+1)=1/(yn+y)

                1÷y×(n +1)=(n +1)/y

                Note that in the last one, compared to the second one, the (n+1) is now in the numerator instead of in the denominator. Welcome to why having the (2+2) in the numerator gives the wrong answer.

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                  8 months ago

                  Good example wish we had better math format.
                  The granger issue is I thought multiple always happens first. But apparently it’s what’s left side first.

                  • multiple always happens first. But apparently it’s what’s left side first

                    Multiplication and division are equal precedence (and done left to right) if that’s what you’re talking about, but the issue is that a(b+c) isn’t “multiplication” at all, it’s a bracketed term with a coefficient which is therefore subject to The Distributive Law, and is solved as part of solving Brackets, which is always first. Multiplication refers literally to multiplication signs, of which there are none in the original question. A Term is a product, which is the result of a multiplication, not something which is to be multiplied.

                    If a=2 and b=3, then…

                    axb=2x3 - 2 terms

                    ab=6 - 1 term