• Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
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      11 months ago

      Drivers shouldn’t be allowed to see the tip amount prior to delivery completion. That, or tipping shouldn’t be allowed until after completion. I hate this more recent model of tipping before receiving service. Because as you said, it’s a bid for service, not an acknowledgement of good service.

      • Nollij@sopuli.xyz
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        11 months ago

        Flip it around - why would you work a job, any job, where you don’t know your pay until after the work is done?

        “Tipping” is rich-people speak for shifting the expense (and blame) to the customer.

        • Bonehead@kbin.social
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          11 months ago

          They already know the pay. If the pay isn’t enough without the tip, then maybe they should consider getting a different job.

          • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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            11 months ago

            The pay is about $2 per order, regardless of mileage. Dashers can typically complete 2-3 orders per hour, and pay for their own fuel. The base pay is absolutely not worth it.

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              11 months ago

              They are paid approximately $4 to $6 per hour, and yet some people are still defending the practice and asking customers to pay extra on top of the food and the $10+ delivery charge…

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                11 months ago

                Given their compensation model, all I can say is that if you are not willing to tip, and/or you are not willing to tip ahead of time, you absolutely should not use the service at all.

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    11 months ago

    I’m a dasher. Yes, drivers do get tips, and our livelihoods depend on people tipping. Yes, you should tip, yes, you’re just being cheap if you don’t. Yes, it is bullshit that doordash doesn’t pay us more, yes, tipping culture is bullshit. But you still eat out at your favorite greasy spoon knowing full well the staff depends on tips to pay their rent so you tip them.

    If you don’t want to tip, get off your ass and get the food yourself. We’re dying out there and don’t need a hundred 15-mile-0-tip deliveries declined a day dragging down our acceptance rates. Just treat us like fucking humans, ffs. Please. Tip. Your. Drivers.

    • pyre@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      It’s your employer who doesn’t treat you like humans. Stop blaming the customers for it.

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        11 months ago

        Their employer is treating them like a tipped employee, which is so embedded into society’s fabric that we have a separate tax code for it.

        You not liking that is not any different from you liking a given law. You’re free to not participate, but expect there to be consequences, and one of those is for people to assume you’re intentionally being an asshole, not protesting a perceived injustice.

    • SirDankbud@lemmy.ca
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      11 months ago

      Not sure about a decrease, but you can easily get it fully refunded if they fuck up. I tip really well because I used to be a food courier myself. Every few months some idiot delivers my pizza upside down or leaves my order outside my building and I get my tip refunded with ease. I have no idea if that money is refunded from the dasher’s pay though.