• TxzK@lemmy.zip
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    10 months ago

    Yeah fuck circumcisions. Child abuse is what it is. I want my fucking foreskin back

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      10 months ago

      My mother used to hate it when people would get baby girls’ ears pierced. Called it child abuse and mutilation.

      I’m circumcised.

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      10 months ago

      Not sure how badly you want it back, but it is possible to restore. Non-sugically. Basically skin under tension causes Mitosis (skin cells dividing to make more skin) - think putting on weight, gaining muscle, getting pregnant, or ear gauges. You tug the skin long enough and eventually have your hoodie back. The results are surprisingly impressive. r/restoring_foreskin has a bunch of info

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        10 months ago

        bruh. I don’t necessarily want it back and was just angry about the fact that it was taken from without my consent in the first place. But thanks for the info anyway, tho not sure what I’m gonna do with it.

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    10 months ago

    I love when this topic comes up because people definitely don’t have a weird fixation on foreskin and totally have balanced discussions that calmly hears both sides.

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      10 months ago

      Not a fixation on foreskins but on personal freedoms and the right to choose what happens to your own body:

      Are you an adult? Cut off what ever part of your body you want to. I don’t care.

      Are you an adult who wants to cut of body parts from others? No. Stop it. Let them decided themselves when they are old enough.

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        10 months ago

        If you intentionally do not recognize it as a legitimate medical procedure with lots of science backed behind it, then you’re purposefully spreading misinfo. That’s just a fact. Just like how some people in this thread are saying it reduces sexual pleasure, scientific evidence states this is not true. It’s also significantly safer and less risk when they’re a baby. These are just peer-reviewed objective facts that have been extensively tested and confirmed.

        https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/58456/cdc_58456_DS1.pdf

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      10 months ago

      Why is this a both sides thing? Circumcision is a Jewish rite that became a larger thing because of a couple mentions in the Christian New Testament. It also has some medical application for individuals with certain conditions.

      Doing it to all male babies doesn’t make rational sense unless you are a specific type of religious.

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        10 months ago

        While circumcision has been a Jewish tradition historically, it has come a long way since then. There are decades of medical research and studies that prove that it is a safe procedure for newborns and bring numerous benefits later in life. Please trust the science and not the religious rhetoric.

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      10 months ago

      I think part of the problem with this discussion is that a lot of us who were circumcised without consent spend most of our early years thinking it’s normal and there is nothing to be upset about. So when people point out the practice is generally very harmful, it is upsetting. It can be hard to process at first, and I think, unfortunately, some people double down on traditional rationalizations as a defense mechanism.

      That being said, I am not a fan of people referring to my genitalia as mutilated/mangled or to me as damaged. It is completely valid to be upset about having your foreskin removed without your consent, but I feel sometimes people veer a little too far in projecting their own hurt onto others. Many people live fulfilling lives with circumcised penises, and some even do it by choice, so, speaking strictly for myself, I generally am glass half-full about it.

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        10 months ago
        1. Kids can’t consent. Parents do it for them in every aspect. This is no different. Making medical decisions for your kids is normal.
        2. You have no reason to be bitter about a legitimate pre emptive procedure to prevent smegma and potential phimosis
        3. Male circ is a safe and sometimes necessary procedure.
        4. Why cant you people be honest? You’re bitter we get it. But lying about circumcision is just stupid and doesn’t convince anyone to not do it.
        5. Everyone should Google phimosis. Anti circ ppl love to lie about there being no medical reason or excuse it away.
        6. It’s none of your business what other people do with their bodies.
        7. There is nothing harmful here at all. It’s no different than removing a skin tag. Demonizing it is laughable.
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          Google says phimosis is fixed easily and is rare to begin with. I think being passionate on either side is silly

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              I’m circumcised and happy about it because of conversations I’ve had various women about dicks in general and my dick in particular with a few of them. That being said if I ever have a son, he won’t be circumcised. Unless his mom is Jewish I guess. But I don’t understand the anger around the subject at all.

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                It’s good you’re able to talk sanely about it.

                But I don’t understand the anger around the subject at all.

                It’s simply a subject of personal autonomy and body integrity.

                Imagine being a grown man or just a teenager and being forced to perform that operation without your consent nor any explanation (as it’s mostly useless out of social norms and potentially harmful). I guess you’d be furious, at least.

                That’s it.

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                  But it’s not happening to grown men or teenagers against their will. It’s happening to people when they won’t remember it and the idea is it prevents minor annoyances about being a man. Archaic and unnecessary? Definitely. But getting mad at people isn’t going to change their mind and doesn’t help people understand it’s unnecessary. That said, being someone who has a mentally unhealthy aversion to bathing, I’m really glad I don’t have to even think about “smegma” I didn’t even know it was a thing until I was fully grown.

                  Edit: to be clear, I don’t think anyone should do that to their kids. If you can’t teach your kid to clean themselves you probably shouldn’t have them to begin with. I just think it’s more helpful for future kids if their parents aren’t circumcising them because they don’t want to agree with the annoying angry people online. It would be more helpful to spread knowledge without judgement or making people feel shameful for something they thought was good. That’s how you get people to double down.

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    I don’t really care. My dick works great, I wouldn’t do this to my kids but my parents trusted the doctor. I still love my parents anyway.

    E: also, this illustrated girl looks really weird, and this is a really weird conversation. Real women do not look like this, and I wouldn’t get naked in front of a girl who looked like this. Eeesh.

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      oh, the parents? for the most part unknowing, the doctor on the other hand? ya, hate him

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        Supposedly is super safe and has health benefits, I once compared it to female genital mutilation and ooh boy was I corrected.

        Edit: the above is far from an endorsement. Some of yall could use some practice critical reading.

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          If you were uncircumcised now, would you choose to have it done at your current age? No. Then, why do it to a baby without their consent? It’s a bodily autonomy issue.

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            Not a real comparison. A baby is given some sugar water and already lives in diapers. They don’t even bleed after it’s done, and you just put some jelly on the front of the diaper for the first few weeks. They experience no discernable discomfort.

            An adult male has gone through puberty and has a life that doesn’t involve sleeping through 18 hours of it and getting changed every couple of hours. The risk of infection is greater because you are an adult who doesn’t get the luxury of having every single need met 24/7 and getting to rest through your entire recovery.

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              You are profoundly uninformed and clearly huffing copium to deal with the fact that you chose to mutilate your own newborn sons penis. Great work bro.

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                  Who’s more obsessed, those who leave well enough alone or those who perform drastic, unnecessary, life-altering surgery as soon as a baby enters the world?