Trump doesn’t have the power to take over police departments in other cities apart from Washington

Donald Trump threatened to send active-duty military personnel into America’s third-largest city to quell what he described as out-of-control crime at the hands of a liberal mayor and Democratic-run city and state governments.

Speaking in the Oval Office Friday to reporters, Trump was boasting of positive crime numbers in the District of Columbia since he seized control of the capital’s police department earlier this month.

He claimed the national guard soldiers tasked with patrolling some of Washington had been doing an “incredible job working with the police” and said his solution for the capital — uniformed soldiers and roving patrols of federal agents who have largely been conducting immigration arrests of delivery drivers according to government statistics — would soon be sent to “another location” to “make it safe.”

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    And then this turns into “JB Pritzker threatens to put ‘national guard’ in the White House to ‘straighten it out’ by removing an orange turd from it”

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    what happened to small government not involving itself with states. i thought that was supposed to be a pillar of supposed “conservatives” that support this tragedy of a government

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      Republicans are not conservatives anymore, they embraced fascism, and fascists don’t care about rules. They only care about power, the kind that allows them to bully everyone into submission.

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        Conservatives have always had authoritarianism as their motivating force. Most of them probably have the mental disorder outlined in The Authoritarians by Bob Altemeyer.

        This idea that Republicans are now somehow violating some ideals laid out in the conservative movement is a very problematic one. Probably even a dangerous one.

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          This video by Innuendo Studios is a really good explanation of this. The whole playlist is amazing but this video and the one after it where he shows his work should frankly be required watching before you’re allowed to talk about politics.

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        Conservatism is just watered down fascism. Always was, always will be. The difference is that conservatives worship pre-existing power while fascists seek their own power to worship.

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          When you get called out for being fascist, you say “I just want to conserve our old values” and decent, civilized people buy that, not thinking anyone would be so morally bankrupt that they would want more than that for their own selfish desires to see people hurt.

          We have as big a problem with decent, civilized people as we do with fascism. We have to get everyone a lot less decent and “civilized” about what’s going on, and that starts with you, tender, shy, anti-social leftists reading all this. You care? You have to start caring about the right things, get off Lemmy and discord and stop bickering about little lefty issues and start fighting the right people.

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            No way, I want to hate Kamala more for not being against genocide enough and doing more to earn my moral high ground vote instead of doing something now. The election was not even half a term ago so this is still quite important.

            /s

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    Gee I hope nobody, or several nobodies, get any bright ideas about how to, ahem…more creatively protest their presence.

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      Cop should have just laughed and let the guy run away. Unfortunately, he lives in the US and it is all “respect my authority” you need to go to prison for flinging a footlong.

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    A quick reminder that bands of untrained, poorly equipped, and suicidal poor people gave the entire US military the headache of the century.

    And then they simply took back power when the US left.

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      True, though there is something to be said about 18 year old kids being drafted who never wanted to be there vs people who voluntarily enlisted making it a career

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            Holy shit. I instantly thought “Vietnam” because it’s been considered an abject failure my entire life, but rereading it does seem to leave it open for interpretation. Iraq and Afghanistan had much more mixed attitudes growing up because people never seemed to fully understand the differences between our motivations for those and thought it was basically all just 9/11 retaliation, which they were for lest they be anti-american or whatever. I assume Vietnam was able to remain seen as a failure because those who were against it could lean on the widely unpopular draft, and those who were “for” it only ever said we should’ve finished what we started rather than pull out.

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    So a standing domestic army occupying a domestic city during times of peace. That’s blatantly illegal. Unfortunately who’s going to stop him.

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    Deploying unpaid National Guard troops to Blue cities is supposed to do what exactly? It’s a bitch move made way too early. They are going to need the National Guard once retired people lose medicare and have to sell everything to pay medical bills.

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      It’s supposed to blow through the restrictions of the Posse Comitatus Act and normalize military violence against US citizens; or against anyone who disagrees with, or tries to resist, the Trump administration.

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    If every military / police said to Trump: go fuck yourself, we’re not doing this to our fellow countrymen, there wouldn’t be a problem.

    Stop taking orders from chief bone spur, head of the raping young children battalion.

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      Remember that about a third of the country enthusiastically supports Trump and another third is either on the fence or noncommittal. He’s not exactly lacking for ideologically compliant manpower.

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      The set of people that are police is entirely contained within the set of people that support Trump. You’re already seeing this with local police helping ICE however they can.

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      Yes eventually after Trump has had a chance to decide which names stay, which are removed like his, and which names not currently on the list to append to it 🙄

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    So will we have the police fighting the military? What if the police start starting the soldiers? What if members of the Chicago PD are also in the reserves, will they get called up? What would happen if the city of Chicago organized to the point that the police as a whole decided not to allow the military into the city?

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    Yeah he fucking looks like he’s dying soon.

    What dumb fucking goofball, he meets Putin face to face, gives him that bare naked palm to shake, then a week later he’s like “Oh I feel sick I think I might be dying”.

    You dumb shit, of course you’re dying, one of the toxic dicks you been licking secreted KGB venom you stupid dumb asshole.

    “Awww I just wanted to kiss a KGB man, now my cankles are swelling with fluid and I lost a lot of weight.”

    Yeah bitch, you got poisoned!

    Meanwhile the dems are all like “Did ya see Gavin Newsome say something, he’s not like the other Democrats!”

    …shiiiiiiiiieet.

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      My amateur read would be that Trump is far more useful to Russia alive as the credulous creature he is than dead. Letting Vance carry on the MAGA legacy would be risky for Putin’s ambitions, so long as Trump is handily disrupting any hope of Ukrainian self determination, why rock the boat?

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        Maybe they’ve been fighting, seems like that’s what’s being said. Trump slowly realizing he’s being lied to. Better a stable person than someone who might actually nuke if he gets cranky enough (the big baby). Also, Russia probably just wants the flex - I think autocrats see the revolving door of democracies as a weakness.

        Hell, maybe Putin saw the stealth bomber got paranoid and got “the guy” to slap that shit into his hand just incase.

        All I know is that you meet that guy, you wash your hands straight away.