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To be fair, killing farming in the USA wasn’t a difficult task. Most countries importing any American food products have had major restrictions on them for years due to safety and hygiene concerns. The EU, for instance, pretty much only imported some soy and grain, because anything else doesn’t meet our quality standards. There only had to be a single minor inconvenience here to end the imports from the USA.
And in all honesty - wonderful news for Europeans. I don’t think any of us will miss American products. Personally I’ll happily pay a tiny bit more for soy from Brazil or China.
What a bunch of welfare queens. They should have planted crops people want to buy.
I would MUCH rather LITERALLY LOSE MY ENTIRE INDUSTRY AND WAY OF LIFE then to have ONE Trans Kid NOT feel suicidal!
-LITERALLY all Republican Voters!
This is hilarious and I upvoted. But it’s also not accurate, and presenting it this way makes Trump look like a giga chad tricking bullies into punishing themselves, when he’s more like just king of a mentally ill cult. I won’t take my upvote back because I voted for Trump one time 9 years ago and I can’t take that back
I regret your use of the word “gigachad”, but “Tricking bigots into punishing themselves” is the precise description of the Republican party.
That’s not a good thing. The theme of American history is “Rich whites convinced poor whites to destroy their own public goods out of fear that someone not like them might benefit too.”
It’s not mental illness. It’s not economic anxiety. It’s not ethics in gaming journalism. It’s white supremacy.
I’d definitely say white supremacy is mental illness though
Oh, so you haven’t learned much at all, you just felt too much shame to keep up the support.
Your narrative here is that moral impurity and disability are not only intertwined, but are also responsible for the worst elements of our world. That’s fascism.
You’re a chud, go lick boots somewhere else.
I’m morally impure but trying to survive. Many people have called me retarded, but there are also plenty of actual disabled people who are more morally pure than me.
I say the problem isn’t the disabled or the morally impure, it’s a huge cult with such a serious sickness they seem to want extinction.
If you’re committed to unlearning the fascism, you should know that the narrative that it’s just “mentally ill” people that voted for him is also not accurate and is infact ableist. White affluent Americans have been primed to endorse these values for centuries, it isn’t new and it isn’t disabled people’s fault.
Being unable to stop trying to commit mass suicide via climate change seems like a serious disability
It’s a social sickness but it’s not a disability.
They can control it and they have chosen to behave like this. You do not get that in a disability
People we both recognize as disabled are also told the exact same thing by others, that they’re choosing to behave that way
And much like your attempt at comparison, it ain’t true.
Not much like, then
Americans are learning the hard way that elections have consequences, and I’m loving it. Sadly, most still won’t learn. I said it before and I’ll continue to say it that Trump, Elon and their lackies are anarchists. They are destroying the government because they hate government (because it gets in their way) and they’re not going to put any of it back. He’ll be gone and we’ll have some broken, ghetto, incompetent government that can’t put the pieces back together and it’s what we’ll be stuck with for generations to come while other countries progress.
Yea, elon (and presumably many other super rich) want(s) cyberpunk ultra capitalism
no rules, just money…Trump is just a corrupt puppet making it possible somehow
Americans are learning the hard way that elections have consequences, and I’m loving it.
You think? I tend to doubt it. Seeing as these are the same lessons since Reagan and they’ve only gotten more popular. They don’t know why they hate government. That’s the real lesson they won’t learn.
It’s the lesson the rest of the world will need to learn super, super quickly, too. It’s about media. And therein is the clue as to why no one will learn it without a big effort.
Big thanks from Brasil. Our soy exports are up like 30%
Corn and soy are about the only agricultural products that aren’t extremely scarce this year…
Guess what the US exports instead of buying from Brasil? Nature wants them to fail too.
Honestly you’re welcome. I’m glad someone is benefiting from this absolute shit show.
Sadly its not the people of brasil profiting, but massive farms with millions of hectares.
Mostly rich farmers though we still get indirect profits from taxes
Yeah, but I doubt, that the benefits the taxes bring outweigh the damage the farming does to the civilians and the local ecosystem
Are you from here or have some info you want to share?
I am not from south America, but had the luck of being able to listen to a lecture of a professor from brasil and he talked about how farming works in brasil and what consequences it has. I am not sure how much stuff you can find in English, but his name is Antonio Androlio.
Im actually brasillian haha and financially those taxes do help, had to study that a lot for the university entrance exams here. Would it help more if was another industry? Yes, big farmers hardly spread their profits to other areas. Does it suck for the enviroment? Yes, I wish we would move to other ways to make money. But its still helpful, we don’t really export much else besides that and iron ore.
I just wish I could find soy milk in the supermarket. I hate that we don’t prioritize our internal market first.
As a brasillian its the exact same thing here sadly. With tariffs our meat exports got crippled badly so I expected to have a lot of high quality cheap meat at the market but… Yup, the producers prefer not to lose their product than to sell domestically and bring down the prices, fuck those guys
Sou brasileira amigo, tô falando do Brasil msm 😅
Eh nois entao haha
Actually Argentina got $20 Billion so it’s like 1,000x worse
And no those customers don’t want to buy our crops anymore BECAUSE WE WERE GIANT ASSHATS so we better put our big boy capitalist pants on and find new ways to earn a living
I thought it got doubled to 40 billion.
You’re right
So it’s actually 2,000x worse
What’s an extra 20 billion between despots? Like a rounding error eh? Actually unsure on the Argentina side but if Trump okays billions I think that says enough.
I thought they were referring to the Argentina Soybean sales to China. What is the value of 10 cargo ships of soybeans?
Before the 2018 trade war, the soybean experts to China were only $12.8 billion. And that was the top. It’s been significantly less since then even before this second full stop.
i’m sure if we all hit the pavement and go country to country we’ll find someone willing to buy our exports. there’s plenty of money out there for people who are willing to work for it
“Guys, could you help me kill US farming? I’ll give you money?”
they should be GRATEFUL that tyson, perdue, foster farms or any of the large farms corporation allows them to work for them.
it went to 40bn, its also alot worst, because that 40bn is going to bessenets friends who invested badly in argentina, so they are getting profit off of that aid.
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When this shitshow is over It would be nice if we could reconstruct our farming practices to focus more small local and sustainable farming instead of corporate conglomerates that damage our environment and wipe out biodiversity.
Lol might as well ask for the wholesale dismantling of all capitalism…
(Yes please)
I think Europe has better farming practices
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I just know they have better quality food so it can’t be as bad as the subsidized corporate poison here
Guess the farmers will have to sell their farms to billionaires for half price now.
Go work for Amazon while Jeff Bezos uses your land to save money on groceries.
As was the plan all along.
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All because racism is like crack for 1/3rd of white Americans. They’ll destroy their families and livelihood once they get a whiff of it.
Dear US Farmers, You wanted America First… Enjoy being America Alone. Have the day you voted for.
kind regards, The rest of the world
Most farmers voted to burn their own fields… again. The same man who nearly crippled American agriculture last time was welcomed with open arms. Tariffs, trade wars, and labor shortages wrecked their profits before, but somehow they lined up for another round. It is like watching someone hire the same man who burned down their house and expecting him to rebuild it this time.
in his first term, i read an article where the farmers were hopeful he would turn things around despite him putitng the tariffs in the first time. theres no helping these people.
After his Trade War on the first term, Trump gave major subsidies and bailouts which really benefited large farmers. Trump promised similar subsidies for this term, and Trump actually delivered on that in his spending bill; but farmers were expecting more than what was promised, and they haven’t gotten that.
This really needs to be higher up. Farmers are millionaires who got massive bailouts and tax breaks the first Trump term. They were expecting the same thing this time around which is why they voted for him again. They voted for their bank account over human suffering and the destruction of America
Bingo. If you haven’t heard of her, I recommend you check out https://www.youtube.com/@FarmToTaber - I found her videos extremely informative.
This is why farmers shouldn’t monocrop. Even if a farmer doesn’t care about the environment and soil health, monocropping makes a farmer vulnerable to the volatile nature of geopolitics and the global economy.
They don’t? Afaik soy is an off season crop to balance nitrogen(?) in the ground. But not being able to sell your harvest 50% of the time is still pretty bad.
This.
Trump is bankrupting America like he bankrupted all of his businesses.
I couldn’t believe how many people don’t realize that a country literally CANNOT be run as a business.
It can, but it doesn’t mean it will be good or useful at all lol but I get what you’re saying. Government is for people, business is for profit. People and profit are not compatible as the purpose of the entity. Just look at the US Healthcare “Industry” for the most glaring example of this.
You’ve summed it up exactly. Business is for profit, government is for people. To expand slightly more on the thought here’s what I say:
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Unproductive members of a business are fired. You can’t do that with people. Well you can, but then we call that euthanasia or mass murder or other such things.
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A business is made up of folks that are, in the main, healthy, relatively trained and able to work. Assuming that the business is a good one and is one of those “one career” type things, you have them for about 35 years. A country has to take care of people from birth to death. So that’s like another fifty or so years.
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Everything that a business does and everyone it hires is (theoretically) there to help expand and grow the business and it’s associated profits. It doesn’t need things like a military which sucks up profit and is only used once in a while.
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A business doesn’t normally rely on its own employees to generate its profits. They might contribute, for instance Esso employees are probably paying for gas, but the vast majority of the profits are coming off non-Esso people.
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Canada, Russia, Belarus and China are the major players in potash mining and production. The US doesn’t mine or produce any in a substantial number. The US has huge import tariffs on China, and can’t currently buy from either Russia or Belarus.
Canada needs to put a 50-70% export tariff on potash. That would crush US farming.
If Trump wants to play, let’s burn them to the ground. Here is your 51st state you cunt.
This is idiotic. You are literally suggesting Canada follows Trump example and try to use tariffs to hurt another country.
Canadian potash producers have no reason to be punished with tariffs.
Tariffs damage your own country. Not the enemy. This is literally what you’re complaining about.
Tariffs damage your own country. Not the enemy.
Read what I said. I said EXPORT tariffs. These are taxed at the border, by Canada, to the buyer exporting - IE; the farmers and supply chain in the US. These aren’t like Trump’s import tariffs but they have the same effect to Americans.
The only effect this would have on Canada is MAYBE some reduced sales, but US farmers don’t have a choice with this product. They literally can’t buy it from anywhere else in the numbers they need.
And yes, the design would be to cause even further damage to US farming because of Trump. It’s a huge power play Canada has. They want to reduce our added tax on potash? They need to drop or reduce tariffs on their end.
Buyers import. Sellers export. Your example does not make logical sense.
US buyers are technically importing potash to the USA, but the tariff is considered an export tariff because it’s leaving Canada. The tariff is on the buyer in the US.
as he said “EXPORT tariffs. These are taxed at the border, by Canada, to the buyer exporting”, which would be those farmers
Wait, why not?
You can have sensible tariffs that do the intended job of encouraging a domestic market, but you need to have both supply and demand available domestically.
For example, Canada has an import tariff on milk and other dairy because we produce and consume our own dairy products. If some giant US milk conglomerate could start imprint on the cheap it would legitimately harm the Canadian economy.
Cool story bro. Read the conversation next time. The topic was potash tariffs.
The topic was potash tariffs until they gave an example using a different product. That’s how examples work.
Its not universally true that tariffs harm your own country.
If the US really is dependent on a specific thing from a specific country then that country can absolutely harm the US by applying a tariff to it.
IMO there’s a good chance that Trump’s second term will mark the end of the United States as a super power.
Speed running the collapse of an empire.
It really feels like that, doesn’t it?
Any % Democracy death blind playthrough on a DDR pad.
It’s guaranteed because it’s basically already happened. The ramifications just take time to be felt
Farming is .8% of the GDP
Nearly every single ally is distancing themselves from us, especially on trade.
Our word is worth even less than it was before because we can just elect someone who unilaterally reverses course and breaks treatys at the drop of a hat.
Currently saber rattling to an absurd degree against countries that were close allies less than a year ago.
Economy as a whole is being destroyed to such a degree that the dollar will soon no longer be the world reserve currency, giving up yet more economic power and stability.
Complete gutting of science and medical funding which will put us decades behind research that we were in the forefront of.
Completely stopping investment into renewable energy, giving up the opportunity to be a world leader in the future of energy and thus just allowing ourselves to be left behind when the switch becomes impossible to prevent, which will probably devastate the economy further down the road yet again.
The only thing we will have is the military, and though I don’t like how much we spend on it or anything, they’re still fucking that up because cooties are gross.
The superpower thing has nothing to do with farming.
A has-been empire with a massive military and an aggressive desire to get back to the days when everyone respected them.
They’ll probably decide, fear is as good as respect…
What massive military? Militaries only exist as long as they are paid.
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If only there were signs that a spoiled, deranged imbecile, pedofile who bankrupted so many companies that he ended up as a game show host wouldn’t be a great leader
At this point that’s barely and opinion
The dismantling of NATO, all of the “soft power” has gone down the drain, the US being subservient to Russia. It has basically already happened. We are just waiting for everyone to acknowledge it, because every leader in the Western world are desperately clinging to a world view which no longer exists.
The US needs a German style constitutional court to make sure you can’t have a dictator again.
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Enforced by a foreign occupation after half of the tyrant’s supporters got killed, but the occupation doesn’t bother killing or at least keeping the rest of them from running the state and corporations like nothing happened?
There can’t be a foreign occupation. Our nuclear warheads guarantee that the only way the USA falls is from civil unrest. No one is going to rush a nation capable of Mutually-Assured Destruction.
In the grand scheme of things maybe not So bad
and destroy the republican base, gop too. hes taking everyone down with him, at the behest of putin.
More generally, VOTERS killed farming in America.
And the people who pointed out this would happen were laughed at or told we were being overdramatic
Congrats republicans, you MAGA’d your way to the downfall of America. Maka America Garbage Again
Let’s not give them all the credit. All the dumbass nonvoters deserve their fair share of responsibility too.
the people who pointed out this would happen were laughed at
Time to turn the tables. Never miss a chance to laugh at them
Well the alternative was voting for Harris and I think she would have gone around and personally shot the farmers.
I definitely heard her say she was going to do this
Many people were saying it
Kristi Noem was tapped by Harris to help take care of the farmer’s animals.
Farming in America has been in decline as small family owned farms go under and get bought out by large multinationals and the elites.
